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Old May 17, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Just about everyone sells bfg tires. They have a set pricing so your not going to get much of a deal on them unless there is a buy3 get 1 free or some kind of sale.

I do residential and commercial hvac work. I just left a residential company to focus more on commercial and refrig.
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 12:46 AM
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Hello, first post on this forum and here's my 2 cents.

I currently own a '95 f250 sc lwb 4x4 w/7.3L, about a year ago I sold a '99 F350 sd cc swb 4x4 with v10, for a reason. There are pros and cons to both of these but if you want to bring maintenance costs into the equation, you must include modifications required for the v10/5.4 to even come close to towing the same load, comparatively.

A '99 V10 is a dog. No low end power, no high end power so you must rely on mid range. If you don't have 4.30 gears, youre screwed. Start with those, if you put them in yourself, youre looking at an easy $800 if you have tools... If not, look towards $1000. All fords gas engines were a little behind in the power curve as compared to the other manufacturers so that's also something to debate.

I had done everything short of forced induction to get the V10 truck to pull a rather light trailer (6k). It failed. Miserably. I had Doug thorley headers, flow master exhaust, 4.88 gears with 285 tires on a 4" lift, under drives, tuner, cai, high flow cat, then gutted the cat later, even tried a useless tb spacer. All of the modifications helped but it was still lacking. In the end, at about 170k, piston slap developed and I sold it.

Now, I buy the OBS diesel truck... Hooked to same trailer and can't even notice the trailer is behind it. I then did all the PSD "free" mods like gutted cat, removed muffler, bb fpr mod, cleaned the fpr screen and now the truck has a ton more power. I just recently ordered a $65 3" downpipe that will substantially alter the trucks mpg and power. $65......... Not thousands as compared to the V10. funny thing is, the 7.3l truck has a 3.55 LS rear and can tow more than that gas SD ever could.

I don't know how many times that the v10 was bouncing off the rev limiter pulling that 6k load up small grades in Arizona. The 7.3 truck doesn't even shift out of OD most of the time.
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lubbockguy1979
Just about everyone sells bfg tires. They have a set pricing so your not going to get much of a deal on them unless there is a buy3 get 1 free or some kind of sale.

I do residential and commercial hvac work. I just left a residential company to focus more on commercial and refrig.

I guess I've just missed them at Discount, three times now. Didn't notice them when I bought Kumos for the F150 a few years back, Arizonians (Goodyear) for the mini van last year and yesterday when pricing for this 250.

I didn't see them offered on their website either, why I asked. I'll check again.

Although I've hung 10 20 ton Carrier split systems w/two 10 ton condensers per 20 ton air handler as well as serviced a few 25 ton systems, mainly light commercial including up to 15 ton rtu's and residential service and installation here. In resi you can get tips!

Thanks for the help Luboock.
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 18436572
Hello, first post on this forum and here's my 2 cents.

I currently own a '95 f250 sc lwb 4x4 w/7.3L, about a year ago I sold a '99 F350 sd cc swb 4x4 with v10, for a reason. There are pros and cons to both of these but if you want to bring maintenance costs into the equation, you must include modifications required for the v10/5.4 to even come close to towing the same load, comparatively.

A '99 V10 is a dog. No low end power, no high end power so you must rely on mid range. If you don't have 4.30 gears, youre screwed. Start with those, if you put them in yourself, youre looking at an easy $800 if you have tools... If not, look towards $1000. All fords gas engines were a little behind in the power curve as compared to the other manufacturers so that's also something to debate.

I had done everything short of forced induction to get the V10 truck to pull a rather light trailer (6k). It failed. Miserably. I had Doug thorley headers, flow master exhaust, 4.88 gears with 285 tires on a 4" lift, under drives, tuner, cai, high flow cat, then gutted the cat later, even tried a useless tb spacer. All of the modifications helped but it was still lacking. In the end, at about 170k, piston slap developed and I sold it.

Now, I buy the OBS diesel truck... Hooked to same trailer and can't even notice the trailer is behind it. I then did all the PSD "free" mods like gutted cat, removed muffler, bb fpr mod, cleaned the fpr screen and now the truck has a ton more power. I just recently ordered a $65 3" downpipe that will substantially alter the trucks mpg and power. $65......... Not thousands as compared to the V10. funny thing is, the 7.3l truck has a 3.55 LS rear and can tow more than that gas SD ever could.

I don't know how many times that the v10 was bouncing off the rev limiter pulling that 6k load up small grades in Arizona. The 7.3 truck doesn't even shift out of OD most of the time.
I think you should have gotten a semi. It would have done a lot better job pulling the load than a 7.3. Lol.
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 18436572
Hello, first post on this forum and here's my 2 cents.

I currently own a '95 f250 sc lwb 4x4 w/7.3L, about a year ago I sold a '99 F350 sd cc swb 4x4 with v10, for a reason. There are pros and cons to both of these but if you want to bring maintenance costs into the equation, you must include modifications required for the v10/5.4 to even come close to towing the same load, comparatively.

A '99 V10 is a dog. No low end power, no high end power so you must rely on mid range. If you don't have 4.30 gears, youre screwed. Start with those, if you put them in yourself, youre looking at an easy $800 if you have tools... If not, look towards $1000. All fords gas engines were a little behind in the power curve as compared to the other manufacturers so that's also something to debate.

I had done everything short of forced induction to get the V10 truck to pull a rather light trailer (6k). It failed. Miserably. I had Doug thorley headers, flow master exhaust, 4.88 gears with 285 tires on a 4" lift, under drives, tuner, cai, high flow cat, then gutted the cat later, even tried a useless tb spacer. All of the modifications helped but it was still lacking. In the end, at about 170k, piston slap developed and I sold it.

Now, I buy the OBS diesel truck... Hooked to same trailer and can't even notice the trailer is behind it. I then did all the PSD "free" mods like gutted cat, removed muffler, bb fpr mod, cleaned the fpr screen and now the truck has a ton more power. I just recently ordered a $65 3" downpipe that will substantially alter the trucks mpg and power. $65......... Not thousands as compared to the V10. funny thing is, the 7.3l truck has a 3.55 LS rear and can tow more than that gas SD ever could.

I don't know how many times that the v10 was bouncing off the rev limiter pulling that 6k load up small grades in Arizona. The 7.3 truck doesn't even shift out of OD most of the time.
The 5.4 and the v10 will pull 10k. It will seem that they are giving it their all. The diesel from my exp can though will give you the impression it is effortless. The biggest issue with the gass motors in the 1999-07 (all I have exp driving) is the fact they sound like they have a high stall convertor and don't just snap to like the diesel variants do. They have power and like to run in the upper rpm range and likely could run at redline all day and work their butts off all day everyday. It is a bit unsettling but they do handle it well.

As for discount tire, they sell them but typically they will first recomend what ever tire they are pushing at the moment and also what they will make the most money off of. Bfg and others have a set price in which a dealer cannot sell a tire below. Often times a similar tire can be sold a lot cheaper based on volume and quanity. Cooper tires are a decent brand. Another brand I think is either a sub company of theirs or a very similar brand based on tread design is master craft.
 
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Old May 18, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Just picked her up. This thing flies. Shift kit (I think) and a K & N cold ar filter.





And that little black thing is a trailer brake control, lit up when I hit the brake.

Thanks everyone.
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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Just picked her up. This thing flies. Shift kit (I think) and a K & N cold ar filter.





And that little black thing is a trailer brake control, lit up when I hit the brake.

Thanks everyone.
Looks cool at night.
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 01:52 AM
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Sweet! Now come on down to the 99-03 7.3L section say Hi. Lots of good info on these engines and what they like/don't like.
 
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Originally Posted by Texas Chain Ring
Thanks for the head up. I'll make sure to pamper her as best I can.

Btw, this will be my first 250. I'm pretty stoked with it!
That's a good truck, but man your next f250 get a powerstroke and you will be stoked. I'm never going to have a gas again.
 
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