Air dog help..
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Air dog help..
I am looking at ordering a Airdog today and have a question..which one do i need?? staying with the Air dog 1 but do I need 100gph or 150 gph..
Fuel mods to date...Stage 2 HO 225/100 injectors,in take mods, Strickly's regulated return with fuel filter delete and 2 micron post pump filter,yalbro fuel pump.
Reason for looking at the Air Dog is filtration,water separator, and hopefully longer life out of the fuel pump,and of coarse keeping air out of injectors..
So, 100 GPH or 150 GPH??
Fuel mods to date...Stage 2 HO 225/100 injectors,in take mods, Strickly's regulated return with fuel filter delete and 2 micron post pump filter,yalbro fuel pump.
Reason for looking at the Air Dog is filtration,water separator, and hopefully longer life out of the fuel pump,and of coarse keeping air out of injectors..
So, 100 GPH or 150 GPH??
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whats up bud? we went with the 150??? or 165 rather...i think, anyway,we have a 03 7.3.. stage 3 inj,air doggII,we went with an expeirimental turbo. we have a dude down here in bama that has his own turbo shop and hes built a turbo that i think is compairable to the gtp38r..
on to the point.. im having issues with my fuel(airdogg). im getting a choppy idle. under a load or cruisin down the road,it does fine. the idle sux though.
this is a fully rebuilt truck. the motor is new. i built it,new pistons,new front cover,lpop,hpop,rosewood inj.. i mean the worx.
i would go big if your gonna buy one. why not? if you decide to go bigger on inj,turbo or what not. your fuel is there.. did you have issues with your airdogg???
on to the point.. im having issues with my fuel(airdogg). im getting a choppy idle. under a load or cruisin down the road,it does fine. the idle sux though.
this is a fully rebuilt truck. the motor is new. i built it,new pistons,new front cover,lpop,hpop,rosewood inj.. i mean the worx.
i would go big if your gonna buy one. why not? if you decide to go bigger on inj,turbo or what not. your fuel is there.. did you have issues with your airdogg???
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Joey, I have the AD II and so far love it. I know I am not answering your question but, on one of the other forums an unusually high Air Dog pump failure is reported. Only giving you a heads up to help as you make decisions regarding the pump to purchase.
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I am looking at ordering a Airdog today and have a question..which one do i need?? staying with the Air dog 1 but do I need 100gph or 150 gph..
Fuel mods to date...Stage 2 HO 225/100 injectors,in take mods, Strickly's regulated return with fuel filter delete and 2 micron post pump filter,yalbro fuel pump.
Reason for looking at the Air Dog is filtration,water separator, and hopefully longer life out of the fuel pump,and of coarse keeping air out of injectors..
So, 100 GPH or 150 GPH??
Fuel mods to date...Stage 2 HO 225/100 injectors,in take mods, Strickly's regulated return with fuel filter delete and 2 micron post pump filter,yalbro fuel pump.
Reason for looking at the Air Dog is filtration,water separator, and hopefully longer life out of the fuel pump,and of coarse keeping air out of injectors..
So, 100 GPH or 150 GPH??
Actually, the 100 GPH is probably the rating at 0 pressure. In your situation, I'd want to know what the flow is at 60 or 70 PSI. It's nice to have big numbers thrown at you, but keep in mind how much you can possibly use.
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whats up bud? we went with the 150??? or 165 rather...i think, anyway,we have a 03 7.3.. stage 3 inj,air doggII,we went with an expeirimental turbo. we have a dude down here in bama that has his own turbo shop and hes built a turbo that i think is compairable to the gtp38r..
on to the point.. im having issues with my fuel(airdogg). im getting a choppy idle. under a load or cruisin down the road,it does fine. the idle sux though.
this is a fully rebuilt truck. the motor is new. i built it,new pistons,new front cover,lpop,hpop,rosewood inj.. i mean the worx.
i would go big if your gonna buy one. why not? if you decide to go bigger on inj,turbo or what not. your fuel is there.. did you have issues with your airdogg???
on to the point.. im having issues with my fuel(airdogg). im getting a choppy idle. under a load or cruisin down the road,it does fine. the idle sux though.
this is a fully rebuilt truck. the motor is new. i built it,new pistons,new front cover,lpop,hpop,rosewood inj.. i mean the worx.
i would go big if your gonna buy one. why not? if you decide to go bigger on inj,turbo or what not. your fuel is there.. did you have issues with your airdogg???
Hence, The reason for the question..
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Called AirDog and spoke to them..They said to use the 150GPH..OK,I say, what is the flow rate @65psi?Tech support,I don't know, we don't have that information..
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
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Called AirDog and spoke to them..They said to use the 150GPH..OK,I say, what is the flow rate @65psi?Tech support,I don't know, we don't have that information..
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
I am not an expert at the fuel delivery on these things, but I understand pump flows and pressures. My truck uses about 7.5 GPH on the highway, but I don't know about WOT. Let's see... 3000 RPM times 4 injections per revolution, times 225cc/1000 injector capacity = 2700 cc of fuel per minute = 162000 cc/h = 43 GPH at WOT with your injectors.
Unless somebody had a starvation issue with one of these, I'd lean toward the smaller pump. However... it is safer to go big with those monster sticks.
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If you use the airdog as a lift pump to feed a high pressure pump you should be ok. Quite a few vendors have stopped selling the AD II due to high failure rates. Quote from Strictly..
AIRDOG II NOTE: WE DO NOT CURRENTLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF AN AIRDOG II IN A HIGH PRESSURE FORD 7.3L OR 6.0L APPLICATION. We have discontinued the sale of the AirDog II for these applications because we don't feel that the performance and reliability of the AirDog II are sufficient. If you are working on a 7.3L truck that will be 400hp or less (or a 6.0L with 190cc or smaller injectors) and you are interested in an "Air Removal Device", we recommend using a standard AirDog 100gph or 150gph unit feeding your stock fuel pump. If you are planning to exceed the power level/injector size described above, please call us to discuss your needs.
AIRDOG II NOTE: WE DO NOT CURRENTLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF AN AIRDOG II IN A HIGH PRESSURE FORD 7.3L OR 6.0L APPLICATION. We have discontinued the sale of the AirDog II for these applications because we don't feel that the performance and reliability of the AirDog II are sufficient. If you are working on a 7.3L truck that will be 400hp or less (or a 6.0L with 190cc or smaller injectors) and you are interested in an "Air Removal Device", we recommend using a standard AirDog 100gph or 150gph unit feeding your stock fuel pump. If you are planning to exceed the power level/injector size described above, please call us to discuss your needs.
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Called AirDog and spoke to them..They said to use the 150GPH..OK,I say, what is the flow rate @65psi?Tech support,I don't know, we don't have that information..
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
Now, I believe the AD is a good product but I cannot believe they don't have more information on thier product.anyway, I will wait on a few more post before I bite the bullet
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If you use the airdog as a lift pump to feed a high pressure pump you should be ok. Quite a few vendors have stopped selling the AD II due to high failure rates. Quote from Strictly..
AIRDOG II NOTE: WE DO NOT CURRENTLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF AN AIRDOG II IN A HIGH PRESSURE FORD 7.3L OR 6.0L APPLICATION. We have discontinued the sale of the AirDog II for these applications because we don't feel that the performance and reliability of the AirDog II are sufficient. If you are working on a 7.3L truck that will be 400hp or less (or a 6.0L with 190cc or smaller injectors) and you are interested in an "Air Removal Device", we recommend using a standard AirDog 100gph or 150gph unit feeding your stock fuel pump. If you are planning to exceed the power level/injector size described above, please call us to discuss your needs.
AIRDOG II NOTE: WE DO NOT CURRENTLY RECOMMEND THE USE OF AN AIRDOG II IN A HIGH PRESSURE FORD 7.3L OR 6.0L APPLICATION. We have discontinued the sale of the AirDog II for these applications because we don't feel that the performance and reliability of the AirDog II are sufficient. If you are working on a 7.3L truck that will be 400hp or less (or a 6.0L with 190cc or smaller injectors) and you are interested in an "Air Removal Device", we recommend using a standard AirDog 100gph or 150gph unit feeding your stock fuel pump. If you are planning to exceed the power level/injector size described above, please call us to discuss your needs.
not really an absurd response from them if you ask me....they make a high volume low pressure fuel pump....the airdog 1's be it the 100 or 150 gph units pump at 10 psi...who cares what it pumps at 65 psi you cant dial it up.....now if you asked them that about the AD2 which is adjustable then i would say that guy was an idiot.....whichever you get for your lift pump make sure you spend the extra 50 bucks and get the low fuel pressure warning light.....and most of all send in your warranty card asap......
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Yes, I have read that also..
Have you installed one??. I would like to talk to someone that has..I have been reading the install manual and it says thet you dont use the factory fuel feed line on the 150..I assume its just pluged? If so,why not run the return from the AD to that instead of cutting the fill tube??do a little modifaction and have 2 return lines into the cap of the fuel tank,1 from the engine and 1 from the AD
Have you installed one??. I would like to talk to someone that has..I have been reading the install manual and it says thet you dont use the factory fuel feed line on the 150..I assume its just pluged? If so,why not run the return from the AD to that instead of cutting the fill tube??do a little modifaction and have 2 return lines into the cap of the fuel tank,1 from the engine and 1 from the AD
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I also installed a sump. Kept the stock system as a backup. My sump is from Alligator Performance, but I believe Clay has some now as well.
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