Swapping E4OD to 5,SPD
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I was going to try it because 95 engine has issues. One being blow back,blows out 5 quarts of oil every 50 miles. E4OD is slipping and you know gas is very expensive at present maybe 8-9 miles to gallon but will not take off fast in drive very slow. Thought I might try it.Thank you for answering post . ZF OK
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Pedals, cross member, drive shaft etc. Also, how is your speedo run?
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The swap is very possible. Should you do it depends on what you plan on doing with the truck. If you plan to pull trailers and such you shouldn't use the 5 speed you have but find a ZF5. If you just drive around, go for it. You will need the starter, master clutch cylinder, and the pedal assembly out of your other truck. You will need to move your trans cross member up and get the right length drive shafts. Plus a new fly wheel and clutch. Unplug your trans harness. The engine wont start without a signal from the trans telling the computer its in park or neutral. I by passed mine with a push button start going to the solenoid on the passenger fender. Not to difficult to do. I put a 5 speed in my 95 bronco which had an e4od in it as well.
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But you really should think about getting a ZF if you want a manual. Ford never offered the M5OD behind the 5.8. If you baby it you'll probably be OK for a while but if you do any kind of hauling or towing it will not last long.
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Thank you guys for helping me I think you have talked some sense into the subject.If I use the little mazda transmission and want to pull a trailer you wouldnt recomend it.But if I get a ZF5,spd will have to get a bellhousing that will fit my 351 and the mazda crossmember probably want work, so will have to get crossmember, bellhousing,driveshaft,from another vechicle.Thanks ,Maybe should be asking what is the best I can expect from E4OD gas mileage . And is it lke brain surgery to rebuild it.
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I put the mazda 5 speed in behind my 351 and it all went fine. Used the same cross member just moved it ahead. I never switched pcm's or anything worked just fine. I did blow my 5 speed in a bunch of pieces though. I pulled and drove hard. Liked to have fun in the bronco. What is wrong with the e4od by the way before rebuilding it because there is a lot electrically that can cause them to seem bad?
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Note that the ZF has an integral bell just like the Mazda trans, so you just need to find one from behind a 351w or 300 in an F250 or larger.
Surprised the CEL and codes don't put the motor into some "limp home" mode or something, but hey, good input from those have done the deed--thanks.
Surprised the CEL and codes don't put the motor into some "limp home" mode or something, but hey, good input from those have done the deed--thanks.
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OK,This is what I have been experiencing With my E4OD.Start with it in drive it will gopher turtle off. If I start in 2nd it will take off ok.Then shift to drive gets into 3rd and slow to get into 4th. Kind of like rowing a boat put gas ease off changes into 4th will top out at 65 to 70. then if you try down shifting will notice 2nd gear go down to 1st no difference.That is whats been happening.Where do I start.
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Well my very first start would be warming the truck up to operating temp and read off your trucks engine codes. That will hopefully give you a good reference point. You can either buy a code reader from what I have been hearing goes for about 30 bucks or take the codes off yourself reading your check engine light. Search some of the threads people have posted, there is some good information there.
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I put the mazda 5 speed in behind my 351 and it all went fine. Used the same cross member just moved it ahead. I never switched pcm's or anything worked just fine. I did blow my 5 speed in a bunch of pieces though. I pulled and drove hard. Liked to have fun in the bronco. What is wrong with the e4od by the way before rebuilding it because there is a lot electrically that can cause them to seem bad?
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Are you sure about that? I thought the Mazda transmission was offered with all 3 engines in the half-ton trucks. Eh, what do I know...?
I agree that the Mazda trans won't hold up doing the real work a 3/4 ton truck is capable of. I think a ZF-5 would have to come froma 5.8/351 donor, wouldn't it?
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I agree that the Mazda trans won't hold up doing the real work a 3/4 ton truck is capable of. I think a ZF-5 would have to come froma 5.8/351 donor, wouldn't it?
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I not sure I would go that route either. I would just go to a 4r100 and get a transmission controller to help with this changeover. Just have to make sure you get the right torque converter to mount up to your flywheel. Make sure you get the right 4r100 that works with your shifter linkages and your speed sensor
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I not sure I would go that route either. I would just go to a 4r100 and get a transmission controller to help with this changeover. Just have to make sure you get the right torque converter to mount up to your flywheel. Make sure you get the right 4r100 that works with your shifter linkages and your speed sensor
Seeing what electrically is wrong with the current combination will most likely be the cheapest solution.
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