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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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timing keeps moving

my 79 f 250 400cu in seems to have jumped time. I put the light on it and got it back to 10 deg. turned it off to remove the light and when i restarted it the timing was off again. what could cause this?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Chain's pooched. Time to pull it apart and replace the chain and gears before it breaks and causes some serious damage.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Sounds like it's time to replace the timing chain.

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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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i was afraid of that, hoped it was something simple. thanks for the reply!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Is it running poorly when it jumps? If not it may be that the rubber in the balancer is shot and it's causing it to slip.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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Is it possible the timing is out and the throttle plates are uncovering the ported vacuum holes causing the vacuum advance to be changing the timing as the vacuum fluctuates? This was happening to me.

Simple check is to disconnect the vacuum advance hose, plug and see if the problem goes away. Or check the ported vacuum at idle. Should be zero to 1-3 inHG.

If either is true you have a carb tuning issue, not a mechanical problem. Worth a check before heavy repairs.. I don't have a 400 but 10 deg seems high. High timing could cause the scenario above...
 
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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Do you have the nut tight that holds down the dizzy? Mine was loose and causing the dizzy to turn.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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when I moved the dist and got the timing to 10 deg it sounded smooth and the vacume guage read normal. I shut it down and removed the light and when I restarted , it was worse. The short block is only a few years old, but I might have had to use the old har. balancer when I put it in. Only 18,000 mi on engine so I would;nt think chain is shot.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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I would not think with 18 thousand it would be bad. The only thing I can think of is:

1. Bad timing chain
2. Loose dizzy
3. Possible bad gear on bottom of dizzy.

You are checking the timing with the Vac timing advance line disconnected and plugged. It should also be on ported vac to the dizzy. No Vac at Idle
 
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