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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Smoking olly
Ok. If you ever want any info on these engines let me know I'd be glad to help. I've been thinking of doing a 466, 3208, or a 401 swap in a 80's F-super duty to haul a pulling tractor.
What did you do to get 700 hp?

lets start with that
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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St Joseph diesel did the pump and injectors. They used the big lines. 120 gph feeder pump. The heads were ported and polished with big valves. 3000rpm cam. Fire ring heads milled the head down .100. The head the cam pump injectors. Are the biggest things with these engines. After all that timing is the key it took 2 years worth of pulling to get the timing set just right.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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For the MW pump engines, do you know what size pump elements they came with stock?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Most MW pumps I see are a 10mm.
Hey Olly, a 401 would be the best in a hauler. Best combo; Ford engine in a Ford truck.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoking olly
St Joseph diesel did the pump and injectors. They used the big lines. 120 gph feeder pump. The heads were ported and polished with big valves. 3000rpm cam. Fire ring heads milled the head down .100. The head the cam pump injectors. Are the biggest things with these engines. After all that timing is the key it took 2 years worth of pulling to get the timing set just right.
Wow, I have to say I'm surprised with the extent of work to get that power.

I was thinking 600 hp or so would be attainable with overtightened head bolts, a little pump work, different injectors, and turbo setup.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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The 10mm is on the truck engine. The 1466 Ih tractor had a 13mm and the 1566 had a 15mm. The 13 is good up to 350cc of fuel I believe. The 401 is what I'm leaning towards just because no one has done it. On them 3 tractors they used the stock 3lm charger with Turbonetics wheels in them at about 75lbs of boost. At 600hp the biggest thing to watch is the egts. At 700hp they will hit 1500 so ceramic toped pistons are a must.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Interesting. I have a Mercedes OM617 with an MW pump, it has 6mm elements. There is a lot of debate on rebuilding the pump with larger elements, but lack of availability. 10mm is huge for a 3liter engine, but maybe this gives a source other than Chinese junk for large elements.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Interesting. I have a Mercedes OM617 with an MW pump, it has 6mm elements. There is a lot of debate on rebuilding the pump with larger elements, but lack of availability. 10mm is huge for a 3liter engine, but maybe this gives a source other than Chinese junk for large elements.
Hey, maybe you weren't paying attention, you can get them hopped up to 13mm !!!!! lol.

THAT, would be a lot for your engine !

Lol !!
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoking olly
The 10mm is on the truck engine. The 1466 Ih tractor had a 13mm and the 1566 had a 15mm. The 13 is good up to 350cc of fuel I believe. The 401 is what I'm leaning towards just because no one has done it. On them 3 tractors they used the stock 3lm charger with Turbonetics wheels in them at about 75lbs of boost. At 600hp the biggest thing to watch is the egts. At 700hp they will hit 1500 so ceramic toped pistons are a must.

I'm still wondering if fire rings are necessary at that power level?

And lines?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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Rings yea they were blowing copper head gaskets when they upgrade the turbo. If you got a p pump engine no you don't but with the rotery pump its a 25-50 hp increase with the lines. I think the 13 mm might be to much lol.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Rings yea they were blowing copper head gaskets when they upgrade the turbo. If you got a p pump engine no you don't but with the rotery pump its a 25-50 hp increase with the lines. I think the 13 mm might be to much lol.
Thats kind of discouraging to hear.... I was hoping to get about 500-600 hp with just pump work and turbo, and injectors.

Thank you very much though. I learn more every day.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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Your very welcome don't be to discouraged that 500hp engine will produce up to 1500ftlbs. Try to compair that to a 5.9 lol
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Hey, maybe you weren't paying attention, you can get them hopped up to 13mm !!!!! lol.

THAT, would be a lot for your engine !

Lol !!
I would like there to be times when it didn't smoke-
 
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Old Nov 4, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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I would like there to be times when it didn't smoke-
Haha, yup.

I would hate to have an engine that smoked all the time.
I think it has more to do with the injectors than the pump though.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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IH 1066 shoots fireball out exhaust - YouTube. I hope this takes you to the right place it is a video of one of the 700hp tractors. If not search IH 1066 shoots fire ball out exhaust. It is the tractor that says over kill on the side panels
 
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