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TheTowingCowboy 04-07-2012 07:21 PM

466DT into Pickup
 
I ams eeing if anyone knows of any photos of a 466DT Into a pick up? I got a chance to buy a Mid 80's 466DT with the P-pump injection setup, with a 5 spd trans behind it. I want to swap it into my 75 High Boy, and wondering about pictures in general. I figure with it not being much bigger then the 7.3 my PSD Radiator would work. If I get it, it would be the whole front half of the truck, so I have all the small stuff, I assume with it being a later model engine it would be simple just power tot he starter and setup a electric fuel kill switch.

nevrenufhp 04-07-2012 09:26 PM

I had my own pix of my attempt in a super duty. I even talked 3 other guys into trying it. It is an extremely difficult swap to pull off. There may only be 22 more cubic inches of displacement, but the sheer size is a whole other story. It's 41 inches from the front of the waterpump just to the back of the head. The bellhousing is 5 more inches. The height can be worked in, at 35". Then, the 1400 pounds of engine, and 300 pounds of 5 speed behind it makes for a lot of weight to deal with. Be sure it's a P-pump, because they didnt come factory until 93 model year. More than likely it's an MW pump, which is somewhat similar to a P-pump. If you do go for it, a 4 core radiator & intercooler for a powerstroke. Think like how a drag car would set the engine back into the firewall, and you'll get the idea. I measured roughly 6", which is how far the head will be into the firewall.
I dont have the link handy, but one of the guys was doing a 95 DT into a 74 F250. If you do a search, I'm sure the link is on here somewhere.
My humble opinion; go for a DT466 if it's for competition. Go for a DT360 if you want something other than a generic Cummins 6BT. Easier fit than a 466, and still has insane power potential. Plenty enuf to shred every bit of drive train component in an F250/350.

parkland 04-26-2012 10:22 AM

466 dt diesel specs layed over SD - a set on Flickr

I took the outer dimensions of the 466, and layed them over my truck with tape, pretty near how she would sit.

I'm planning to use the factory rad /ic, so if you don't, you could move it more forward.

I didn't do a perfect job, but it should give you a rough idea of how this sucker will fit.

nevrenufhp 04-26-2012 09:48 PM

There is an oil sump mixed in there on the bottom side. Them are some pretty accurate marks, otherwise.

parkland 04-26-2012 09:56 PM

Dale,

I am re-visiting this concept.
With the newer diesels not living up to what I want, it seems like a great project.
I started a thread on compd to get some ideas from those guys, and need you too.

I want to do it to a 2008 -2010 ... maybe a 2011.
I was aiming for 400HP @ 3000 RPM, mostly because I don't want a high revving sled pull engine, and I was hoping to use stock injectors and lines.
The engine mods would include turbocharger and pump.

Can you lend any input as to weather the power goals are attainable as I think, and feel free to suggest anything... i'm open to suggestions.
My main goal is to have the engine red line 3000-3200 rpm, and have power come quick with a small quick spooling turbo.
Just want it to drive nice.

nevrenufhp 04-27-2012 08:22 AM

A 12mm P-pump, the right factory injector, and the right turbo. For a turbo, I'd say an S300, 64/14 or 16. I just started to read the one on Comp.

parkland 05-02-2012 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by nevrenufhp (Post 11762546)
A 12mm P-pump, the right factory injector, and the right turbo. For a turbo, I'd say an S300, 64/14 or 16. I just started to read the one on Comp.

What is the right factory injector, part # ?
I'm looking for a 1992 - 94, maybe up to 97, as long as it has the inline pump, right?

Will that turbo spool strong at low RPM's?

I'm certainly hoping to be able to have strong boost at low RPM's, maybe I really should look into a VGT turbo off a new maxforce?

nevrenufhp 05-02-2012 06:05 PM

The right injector will depend on which engine you get. The 93-97 take a different injector than the 84-92. The inline pumps have been on since 84. The 93-97 came with a factory P-pump, but there's more aftermarket performance stuff for the older ones.
That turbo will spool quick.

parkland 05-06-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by nevrenufhp (Post 11784411)
The right injector will depend on which engine you get. The 93-97 take a different injector than the 84-92. The inline pumps have been on since 84. The 93-97 came with a factory P-pump, but there's more aftermarket performance stuff for the older ones.
That turbo will spool quick.

The 93-97 have the roller lifters though?
That's what i've been looking for .......
Are the 93-97 mechanical engines hampered when you say they have less performance parts? I like the fact that they have roller lifters, and that they are newer also, but is it going to be a mess building one up?

You know a ton more than I do. What would you do? I expect the engine will cost 1000-2000$, rebuild kit about the same, what would you do with around 3000-5000$ into it?
I'm not dead set on power levels, but I do want to make sure spooling is powerful at low RPM's, definately don't want a sled pulling motor.

1. Engine 1600$
2. Rebuild kit 1600$ (including valves)
3. Aftermarket head bolts 700$
4. Pump work ????
5. Injector lines ??????
6. Injectors ??????
???
???

I really wanted it to have the spring set around 3000, and have it run good and hard right from idle.

I take it the s300 is a little big on the cummins, but on the 7.6 it would be almost perfect?

nevrenufhp 05-06-2012 12:48 PM

From about 89 on up had roller lifters. Safe bet is to get a 90-92. They have the big aftermarket support.
Skip the head bolts. There's 26 of em, and all are 5/8" thread. You wont pop the gasket unless your timing is up past 25*.
Pump work, shim the gov springs and take out the fuel
screw.
No need for new lines at that power, unless you like the lopey idle.
A factory injector will work. Not gonna say what the body code is though.
I'm thinking the S362/16 would be pretty dern close to just what you're looking for. Should probably run both, booost and drive pressure gauges. Besides the other slew of gauges you want.

parkland 05-06-2012 07:31 PM

Turbocharger Name - S362
Compressor Wheel Inducer - 62mm
Compressor Wheel Exducer - 84.6mm
Compressor Wheel Trim - 54
Turbine Wheel Inducer - 76.1mm
Turbine Wheel Exducer - 66.7mm
Turbine Wheel Trim - 77
Turbine Option - Outlet - DSM wastegated
Turbine Option - Inlet - DSM
Turbine Option - A/R - 0.55
Horsepower Rating - 350-680

A few of these numbers mean something to me, although not many.

parkland 05-06-2012 07:33 PM

it would be nice if there was some software, and you could enter you're displacement, fueling, and it could calculate how long a turbo would take to reach certain spool levels.

Theres obviously no such thing as a turbocharger that is "perfect", choosing one is not easy , for me at least.

I might have the engine right away, :)

Smoking olly 11-04-2012 10:59 AM

Just found this thread. Wondering if you did the swap. I have a buddy who has 3 3000 rpm pulling tractors with the 466 in them I know they were pushing 700hp with the 13mm tractor pump.

parkland 11-04-2012 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Smoking olly (Post 12448658)
Just found this thread. Wondering if you did the swap. I have a buddy who has 3 3000 rpm pulling tractors with the 466 in them I know they were pushing 700hp with the 13mm tractor pump.

I've been dragging my behind lately, no, not even started.

I have a diesel go kart mostly done, taking up what little garage space I have.

Smoking olly 11-04-2012 11:27 AM

Ok. If you ever want any info on these engines let me know I'd be glad to help. I've been thinking of doing a 466, 3208, or a 401 swap in a 80's F-super duty to haul a pulling tractor.


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