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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 03:33 PM
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I had just finished an e-mail to a fellow 03 6ltr C.C 4x4 with the same build date (3/3) telling him no probs whatsoever thru 1500 miles. Then I get in it to go to lunch and it starts running very rough and blowing white smoke like a smoke grenade. Its been towed to the my local Ford dealer and I hope they fix the problem right. They called while I was doing this post and its a bad injector, of course they will only replace the one. I asked what can I expect from Ford when I am two hundred miles from home and the next inj goes out, as I see it I have seven more shots at being stranded. Great rig though when its running right. I will let you all know what happens.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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When you pick your truck up, ask them at the dealership if they replaced the faulty injector with a C94 or a C95 injector and let us know which.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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I will let you know all that they do. The trk being 3/3 build date should have come with which inj part #? Hopefully they will have some info for me today.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Your truck came with C94 injectors.
 
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Old May 8, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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I got my truck back 5/6. I am waiting for the paperwork to be closed out so I have a record of what all was done but I do know the following: the #3 C94 injector failed and was replaced with the revised part, the oil was changed, latest reflash, Oh, one other minor glitch, a ROCKER ARM CAME OFF according to my rep so they replaced it and a push rod. When I get my paperwork back I will advise to any other items of note done. Runs great again, only thing I noticed was a short duration romp shortly after start up this morning. Question- You guys have to wait 4-5 seconds before oil pressure registers on a cold start? Is the 1st 1/2" inch or so of your accelerator pedal dead? Do you have an inch or so free play in your steering on the highway. I do not remember these minor glitches on my 99 7.3. Only 1600 miles so far but I love the way this motor runs, bet i get a few speeding tickets. Getting 17.8 mpg combined driving since i got it back.
 
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Old May 10, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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All Ford Power Strokes have an idiot gauge for an oil pressure gauge. The sending unit is an on/off switch. If you want a direct reading gauge you'll have to install an auxiliary gauge.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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WOW this cowgirl has been reading all the information. My F350 6.0 diesel has been in the Reno NVshop 5 times . I thought buying a nice new quite engine would be nice. I have been without for a week this time. The problems are the same dies in traffic, refuses to stay started, blows black smoke, and I am told that they really don't know how to fix it. They just keep replacing parts. They say soft ware and hardware problems I get the run around.

My gosh why don't they train these people before they let out a product THAT no one can fix.
I cannot believe it !!!. I am done with this truck. Fleet said I have to fill out the forms for a new one. I am a life time Ford purchaser , have bought 4 since 94 / 2 - 2003 diesels with no problems, now this engine is nothing but a mistake. My other half drives a HUMMER. NOW THATS A VEHICLE. !!!!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Interesting comment. First posts I've seen out of hundreds complaining of a 6.0 blowing black smoke and dying without being able to restart. Kind of makes you wonder if this is a Chev owner in sheeps clothing. I also don't believe the dealer simply told you "we really don't know how to fix it" I mean come on. If you are for real and your story is accurate find yourself another dealer.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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"Kind of makes you wonder if this is a Chev owner in sheeps clothing."

YUP...

You guys are steadily getting closer and closer to the behavior of the paranoid GM Duramax bunch - if you come here with a complaint about the revered 6.0, bring the vehicle VIN #, yer birth certificate, social security #, name of the servicing dealership, and be prepared to submit to a lie detector test!

You simply REFUSE to admit the likelihood there just MIGHT be an extraordinary, out of proportion number of engine defects and failures, doncha!

SHEESH!

SOME folks wouldn't recognize REALITY if it reared up on it's hind legs and bit them on the butt...
 

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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Ford's lack of planning and extremely poor engineering on this new engine / transmission combination completely amazes me. It's the kind of thing we've grown to expect from General Motors since the '80s. But to see Ford put trucks on the lot with 40K price tags on them that are literally un-driveable and are basically useless....and then to say they honestly don't know how to fix it...that is nothing short of ridiculous.

I love Ford and always have. I drive one right now too. But regardless...this is something that cannot be tolerated. I truly feel bad for the people who have bought into the advertising hype and purchased a new SuperDuty with the 6.0L.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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1500 miles since my first post here...Truck runs well, perhaps even a little smoother with the added miles. I am just waiting for Ford to find some real fixes for my nagging problems such as being sluggish from a dead stop with full pedal and it puffs white smokle for a few seconds on start up after sitting for awhile. It still idles a little rough sometimes on start up. It also has a vibration in first and a little in second under full acceleration (once it actually finds its legs). From what I see on this and other diesel sites Ford is hard after a fix and I think we will be seeing some real help sooner than later. I am not going in for anymore guess-work reflashes. Through all this I am not sorry about this purchase, there is just too much good about this motor/tranny combo and killer Super Duty looks and interior space. How many of you had the May reflash and went from 18-20 mpg to 16-17 mpg?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Gary - KJ6Q
"Kind of makes you wonder if this is a Chev owner in sheeps clothing."

YUP...

You guys are steadily getting closer and closer to the behavior of the paranoid GM Duramax bunch - if you come here with a complaint about the revered 6.0, bring the vehicle VIN #, yer birth certificate, social security #, name of the servicing dealership, and be prepared to submit to a lie detector test!

You simply REFUSE to admit the likelihood there just MIGHT be an extraordinary, out of proportion number of engine defects and failures, doncha!

SHEESH!

SOME folks wouldn't recognize REALITY if it reared up on it's hind legs and bit them on the butt...
Not the point at all. And of course there are problems. My god man you'd have to be in a coma to not know that. The issue is people that put posts up like the cowgirl stating something like she took her truck to the dealer and they said "we don't know how to fix your truck" I mean come on.......you actually believe that. There's been hundreds of posts of people who have had legitimate problems even some seriously huge problems and the only thing the dealers haven't been able to fix are the small problems like the rough idle, blue smoke, dead pedal, etc....a truck that dies and doesn't start that supposedly blows black smoke and you believe the dealer just looked at it and said sorry don't know how???? yeah. There are a number of Ford haters out there that are absolutely loving this opportunity to post false information. That is a fact. There are GM haters that post false info on thedieselpage.com I've had it with you guys that keep preaching the fact that Ford owners are blind and stupid and ignore problems and have this ignorant brand loyalty. I've owned 3 Fords in my life. The first was a 69 cougar and every single thing that I ever did to it was a total royal pain. Very hard to work on car, hated that car. The second was an absolute POS Explorer. Every month there was something breaking. Hated that rig. I just sold a 93 3500 6.5 turbo diesel (loved the truck)to buy the 6.0, before that I owned a 96 Blazer (notorious for blowing transmissions) I was dead set on buying a Duramax and only didn't because I didn't want the dually and had to have a one ton. Now that I have the Ford (and I expected first year glitches/however not this many mind you), and I really think Dodge trucks are ugly. Anyway don't broad stroke me, you don't have the first idea about my thinking. I jumped all over a guy a couple days ago because he posted something that started with the crappiest truck on earth that exploded in a drivethru. An exploding truck. Now if the truck really did explode, what the hell does that have to do with the new 6.0? He even came back and said his truck is fixed and runs great. Having said all of that, even with the small problems that I am having ------yes I actually and truly own a 6.0 there just simply is no question about the engine and trans. .......it's that good guys.....there is nothing like it......it's that good. That's not ignorance. It's that good.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by WXboy
Ford's lack of planning and extremely poor engineering on this new engine / transmission combination completely amazes me. It's the kind of thing we've grown to expect from General Motors since the '80s.
Not so fast.......read this

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posted 06-04-2003 06:02 PM I have had multiple injector failures, as so many of those on this site have also reported. I just came back from meeting with 3 different dealers.
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You know to be honest with you the only manufacturer that I can determine isn't suffering from some issues is Dodge/Cummins. What a great job Cummins has done with their V6. Just can't stand the looks or the cab size of the Dodge trucks. My wife owns an '03 Dakota quad cab 5.9 very fast and very sharp looking truck. Front end isn't as ugly as the Rams in my opinion anyway.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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I'm not trying to be a smart **** but Cummins doesn't make a "V6 -- they make an inline 6.
As for all you other smart *****, you need to find a way of working off your agression. If somebody buys a $40,000 vehicle, they expect it to run right and if it doesn't, they expect the people who manufactured it to know how to fix it. There are some issues that Ford and Navistar are trying to work out. It takes time but we'll get there. In the mean time there are going to be people who are unaware that this engine/trans combo are fairly new technology and they are (rightly) going to be irritated when their shiny new vehicle that they just paid megabucks for is in the shop being repaired for a problem that shouldn't have occured in the first place by techs that haven't even been to school yet.
This is an open forum -- everybody gets to have their say. I don't know of any reason why somebody would log on here just to trash Ford products. As for you Ford loyalists, I hope your vehicles never give you any reason for your loyalty to be tarnished. I have had extreamly good luck with Ford products and for that reason I am a loyalist. But as soon as I begin putting more miles on my vehicle driving it back to the dealer's service center for warranty work, its outta here! When I get ready to go, my vehicle had better be ready to go or I'll be finding one that is.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2003 | 07:58 AM
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Joe,
Are the injectors on the 6.0l the same as the ones used on the International version of this engine and if so have they had injector problems with the International version of this engine? I have not had any problems with mine but am curious.
Greg
 
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