Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

460 ring installation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:13 PM
  #16  
BURNSF250's Avatar
BURNSF250
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
I guess I wasn't looking at it right. To me, it looked like there is a big hole in the head.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:16 PM
  #17  
Fordzilla80's Avatar
Fordzilla80
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 6
From: Florida
A few of the pistons I pulled from my 300 had the ring gaps lined up as well.

For some reason, it seems that RTV, missing bolts, and carelessness have become essential parts of today's backyard engine rebuilds.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:19 PM
  #18  
ctubutis's Avatar
ctubutis
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 22,415
Likes: 92
From: Denver Metro Area, CO
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by BURNSF250
I guess I wasn't looking at it right. To me, it looked like there is a big hole in the head.
Those are shadows.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 03:27 PM
  #19  
BURNSF250's Avatar
BURNSF250
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Fordzilla80
A few of the pistons I pulled from my 300 had the ring gaps lined up as well.

For some reason, it seems that RTV, missing bolts, and carelessness have become essential parts of today's backyard engine rebuilds.
I've got too much $$$ into this motor now. There's no way I'm going to hack it up!
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 05:47 PM
  #20  
rbalsinger's Avatar
rbalsinger
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
From: Lewis Center OH
From 1983 Ford Factory manual for 7.5L



Need the steps that follow?

Rob
Lewis Center OH
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 05:50 PM
  #21  
Gary Lewis's Avatar
Gary Lewis
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 32,875
Likes: 48
From: Northeast, OK
Originally Posted by rbalsinger
From 1983 Ford Factory manual for 7.5L

Need the steps that follow?

Rob
Lewis Center OH
Same diagram I quoted from the '81 FSM.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 06:08 PM
  #22  
Dorsai's Avatar
Dorsai
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 924
Likes: 4
From: Johns Creek GA
Originally Posted by ctubutis
This is an example of what NOT to do:

I don't understand why this should be, though. Those gaps are completely closed when the piston is in the cylinder, are they not? Then why would it matter how the gaps line up?

I don't dispute that the instructions say what they say, but I don't get the why of it.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 06:20 PM
  #23  
cj06's Avatar
cj06
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 2
From: CASA GRANDE AZ
GAPS ARE NOT COMPLETELY CLOSED , THERE IS A SPEC FOR END GAPS !
and with a bad or no air filter and operating in dust the end gaps can enlarge to look like the grand canyon !
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 08:16 PM
  #24  
BURNSF250's Avatar
BURNSF250
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
I guess it doesn't matter which compression ring is positioned where. I ended up positioning the top ring at 4:30 and the second ring at 7:30. Unfortunately, I broke the second ring on the second piston when I was placing the ring compressor over the piston. It didn't take much effort to break it. I was rather surprised.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 08:23 PM
  #25  
ctubutis's Avatar
ctubutis
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 22,415
Likes: 92
From: Denver Metro Area, CO
Club FTE Gold Member
I easily broke one of my original rings trying to remove it, that's why I had my engine builder/machinist install the new rings on the new pistons.

There is a top & bottom orientation to the rings - IOW they can be installed upside down - but I forget how to tell which way is UP.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 09:08 PM
  #26  
Gary Lewis's Avatar
Gary Lewis
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 32,875
Likes: 48
From: Northeast, OK
Originally Posted by BURNSF250
I guess it doesn't matter which compression ring is positioned where. I ended up positioning the top ring at 4:30 and the second ring at 7:30. Unfortunately, I broke the second ring on the second piston when I was placing the ring compressor over the piston. It didn't take much effort to break it. I was rather surprised.
Bummer! Are you using a tool to expand them? Lots easier than your thumbs.

Originally Posted by ctubutis
I easily broke one of my original rings trying to remove it, that's why I had my engine builder/machinist install the new rings on the new pistons.

There is a top & bottom orientation to the rings - IOW they can be installed upside down - but I forget how to tell which way is UP.
The manual tells how to determine which side goes up, as do the other books I have. If that's an issue I'll look it up - in the morning.
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 07:07 AM
  #27  
BURNSF250's Avatar
BURNSF250
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
I did use an expander to install them. I broke the ring placing the compressor over the piston.
All of the rings in this kit have a small dot on the side that faces to the top of the piston.
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 06:38 PM
  #28  
82f100460's Avatar
82f100460
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, GA
man look at those valves!!! That is one high lift cam!!! Haha
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2012 | 09:10 PM
  #29  
85lebaront2's Avatar
85lebaront2
Old School Hot Rodder
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,472
Likes: 11
From: Exmore, VA
Club FTE Silver Member

You want to talk about worn, when I was at Camp Geiger during ITR, we still had M1s, one of the guys in my platoon had one so worn out the rounds literally fell out of the muzzle.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
76250_4x4
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Oct 31, 2011 10:34 PM
Royson12
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
20
Apr 17, 2011 09:45 AM
Bucsfan552
Performance & General Engine Building
2
Aug 2, 2009 10:21 AM
64F-100
Y-Block V8 (239, 272, 292, 312, 317, 341, 368)
2
Jan 14, 2009 01:17 PM
Darkstar
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
Dec 4, 2002 08:02 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE