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Old 03-18-2012, 04:27 PM
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f-250 only starts when I arc the solenoid

I have a 2000 F-250 that won't start. When I turn the key to start, It clicks one time and that's it. If I leave the key in the run position and arc the solenoid, it fires right up.

I have charged and tested the battery.
I have replaced the solenoid (on the fender near battery).
I have replaced the Ignition switch.
I have replaced the Ignition lock cylinder.



The instructions in the new lock cylinder say I need to reprogram the anti- theft computer with a New GENERATION STAR TESTER. My first question is do I? It doesn't seem like there is any "anti theft" security there because I can still arc the solenoid and start it. My second question is do I need to go to the dealer for this? My third question is what else could it be? I'm getting a little frustrated with it....


Thanks for all of your help! This forum sure is helpful!
 
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Check your neutral safety switch

If manual, it will be on top of clutch pedal. When pedal is depressed, it completes the starting circuit to allow truck to start. You can use a jumper wire to see if the switch is bad

If auto, you'll have a switch on trans that senses park or neutral. Sorry, but I don't know where it is in these trucks. Hopefully somone can help on that


My old 94 F-150 did this. The solenoid on fender died and the clutch switch at same time. Sure can be frustrating
 
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At c103(one of the connectors under master) the No. 10 (Dark Blue/Orange wire).and the No. 12 (Tan/Red wire) That eliminates any starter bypass
 
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Thanks for the reply's. The truck has an automatic trans. I'll check the nuetral safety switch and see if that gets me anywhere.

This rig is one issue after another! In the last year I've put in a new motor and a new trans!
 
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A 2000 Super-Duty won't have PATS.

We need to know WHAT clicks. If it's the starter motor relay, there's nothing wrong with the ignition switch or the sensor/switch on the transmission.
 
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I don't know exactly what the source of the click is, but it sounds like it coming from around the firewall. Ill check again this morning. Where is the starter motor relay located?
 
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My 94 f150 did the exact same thing after I bought it. Problem was finally tracked to a corroded ground for the fender mounted starter solenoid. On the older truck, the ground was on the fender just a few inches from the solenoid.
 
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After further examination, it sounds like the clicking is coming from the fuse box.... There is 4 relay switches in there, is one of those the starter relay?

Thanks to everybody helping out with this! Much appreciated!
 
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Back to the mechanic......

After replacing starter cylinoid, ignition switch, and a blown fuse. It started and ran fine for a month and a half.

Now, my check engine light is on, and it keeps blowing fuses..... If its not one thing with this POS.... its two!
 
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Back to the mechanic......

After replacing starter cylinoid, ignition switch, and a blown fuse. It started and ran fine for a month and a half.

Now, my check engine light is on, and it keeps blowing fuses..... If its not one thing with this POS.... its two!
Well, part of the problem is people guess with electrical problems. They don't really trace down the problem, like they easily could with a meter and a wiring diagram.

Now you have a fuse blowing, which indicates a short or heavy load on whatever the fuse feeds. That would be easy to trace with a wiring diagram since each fuse feeds a limited number of things.

Don't you have anyone in your area that knows basics about electrical systems?

Tom
 
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Thanks for the reply Tom, but the underlying issue is the fact that the electrical problem is intermittent. Its tough to diagnose something that isn't there all the time....


Still working on it....
 
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Originally Posted by Oly-f250
Thanks for the reply Tom, but the underlying issue is the fact that the electrical problem is intermittent. Its tough to diagnose something that isn't there all the time....


Still working on it....
What fuse is blowing, and what runs off that fuse? That's the starting point.

It could be a wire was pinched or damaged during all the work, or a part failing. My 1989 Mustang had the cigarette lighter holder insulation fail and intermittently blow fuses. I found it by disconnecting things on the path fed by that fuse one at a time until it stopped.
 
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Originally Posted by Oly-f250
Thanks for the reply's. The truck has an automatic trans. I'll check the nuetral safety switch and see if that gets me anywhere.

This rig is one issue after another! In the last year I've put in a new motor and a new trans!

Thank god for all the lessons I learn on this page! The Saftey switch had come loose I think when I was changing the fuel filter or something but all I had to do was plug it back in, and it cranked up! I was about to rip starters out, replace fuses, etc.

all my fuses checked out
My truck cranked up when I cranked the truck with the solienoid with a wrench so it wasn’t a bad solenoid that or a bad starter.
battery was reading good on the multimeter
so it was either the ignition switch or the neteral Saftey switch!

what a satisfying feeling when things are fixed with no cost!
 
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