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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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4r100 shiftin problem

I have a 2001 F350 with a V-10. Tranmission will not shift into second gear without letting off the throttle. It did log fault code P0781 one time. Also when you put shift lever in second gear and take off it still takes off in first gear. Also down shifts into first gear hard sometimes. Hooked up my scanner and found #1 solenoid stays on after #2 solenoid comes on and will not go to off untill I let off accelerator. I do not have a diag. manual for trans and looking for help.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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I suspect your trans might be one of the few gas engine trucks that slipped out of the plant with a mechanical diode one way clutch. What you have is the exact failure mode of the mechanical diode.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Are there any markings on the trans to tell that? The tag on the side has D2 on it and is a light orange in color
 
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Also will I see material in the pan when I drop it? Are ther any other steps that I could perform to verfie before I pull oil pan?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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There are no markings on the trans that will tell you if there is a mechanical diode inside. I've heard, but never verified, that if you jack up both rear wheels and turn the driveshaft that you can hear the mechanical diode. It will sound like a ratchet. I've never had a mechanical diode trans to be able to try this.

Often as the diode fails it drops pieces of metal, not flakes or shavings.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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Thanks mark for your help. That is what I feared but Threads stated that very few gas engines trucks had the diode. Guess I should go buy a Lottery ticket today.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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No gas engine truck was supposed to have left the factory with a mechanical diode. Several thousand were built before the problem was discovered. I didn't work on that program, all I know is what was officially told to us in other engineering areas. We were told that all gas engine trucks that were built with the mechanical diode would have the transmission changed before leaving the plant. I can see how a few may have been missed. I have heard from a few people that have had transmission failures in 2001 gas engine trucks and found a mechanical diode inside. I have not personally found one.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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I had the similar problem with a 4R70 and having a tranny flush done actually fixed it.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Looks like I am the lucky one just dropped pan looks like one way clutch pieces to me
 
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Attempted to post pic not sure how to get it on Thread. Pieces are 1/8" dia springs
 
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I have transmission dissassembled mechanical Diode is failed. So time for rebuild and reseal, install one way clutch and new torque convertor. Thanks again for your help and great advise Mark.
 
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