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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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UPDATE: Hex broke off GP. IDEAS?

Hex is broke off flush. tried the easy out route and the easy out snapped. Will try welding a nut to her but unlikely. head is off the truck and on my bench. absolute worst case scenario.... EDM but wayyyyy last resort.

Thanks guys i know you can help me with this!
-Dalton Aseltine
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rollin.IH.Coal
Hex is broke off flush. tried the easy out route and the easy out snapped. Will try welding a nut to her but unlikely. head is off the truck and on my bench. absolute worst case scenario.... EDM but wayyyyy last resort.

Thanks guys i know you can help me with this!
-Dalton Aseltine
Why is welding a nut on unlikely? Mount the ground to the next glowplug over, and then set a nut on top of the broken plug, and fill the whole with weld. If you're good at welding, it will work fine.

-Matt
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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Thanks, i aint too bad at welding and i guess im a bit skeptic because of the broken easy out. i tried to break it up with a punch and drill it, but its a big mess now and there is no clear hole where the gp is.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Whats remaining of the gp is "sunk" in the head. i guess im afraid to weld it closed?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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how deep is it sunk in there? if its only 1/8" or so, you should be able to focus your weld on it and not really get into the head. if you're really worried about getting your weld stuck to the head, you might paint a little bit of anti-sieze on the head around your work. it'll burn off as you weld leaving a protective coating of various metals that won't bond to anything.

now would someone please remind me why that tool is called an "easy out" when the name is so deceptive
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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now would someone please remind me why that tool is called an "easy out" when the name is so deceptive
because it's so easy to end up completely out of luck...
I'm pretty sure they were invented by the Murphy tool company...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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ok guys ill give her a good weld and give her a go, but wouldnt i be welding onto an ease out? this is ok?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Yeah, you'll be welding onto the easy out, and maybe the GP as well. In any event, getting the easy out out of there would be a step forward...
I hope you don'e end up having to EDM it out...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Sorry, for some reason it double-posted...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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easy out is basically tool steel, weld away but it may be brittle so don't hammer on it.
if it were me i would take the pre-cup out and drill into the bottom of the easy out, knock the not so easy out out and drill up to .25"

i would drill no faster than 700 rpm (or somewhere reasonable close to that)

don't try to drill though the easy out, it is made out of the same material as your drill bits.

go easy and slow as i think the gp's are made from tungsten alloy

the gp is 3/8 24 isn't it?

easy outs work great if you use them after you drill a hole that is just a little under the size of the threads. once you drill a hole large enough the threads will cave in and loosen up.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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i believe the thread pitch is 10mm x 1mm, which is quite easy to mistake for 3/8 24.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:35 AM
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HOW DO I TAKE THE PRECUP OUT! if i can see the back of the GP it would help me so much
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Thanks Brandon. Anyone know how easy shes gonna pop out? or the steps?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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I would drill it as big as you could and see if you can cave it in and peel the threads out. If youre out of ideas, you could always heli-coil it.
 
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