ENGINE CHOICES
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ENGINE CHOICES
Maybe a pain in the neck question for Ford Motors but WHY aren't all 4 gasoline engines available on ALL F-150 trucks? Ditto with tire size? There are potential buyers that could use certain engine/tire set ups for work that are not made on the assembly line. With these lines being so technically advanced today why can't one order a 6.2L engine in a regular cab F-150? If the line can install such options without any delay to the production process then why isn't it available? I don't get it. I'm sure they'd say there isn't much of a demand for such a truck but why limit ones choices? And they w/o a doubt should allow for their new Ecoboost in all F-150's. One can not order this engine in the STX.
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Maybe a pain in the neck question for Ford Motors but WHY aren't all 4 gasoline engines available on ALL F-150 trucks? Ditto with tire size? There are potential buyers that could use certain engine/tire set ups for work that are not made on the assembly line. With these lines being so technically advanced today why can't one order a 6.2L engine in a regular cab F-150? If the line can install such options without any delay to the production process then why isn't it available? I don't get it. I'm sure they'd say there isn't much of a demand for such a truck but why limit ones choices? And they w/o a doubt should allow for their new Ecoboost in all F-150's. One can not order this engine in the STX.
So they control sales of their most inefficient engine to satisfy Uncle Sam.
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just asking the question.
do special orders affect the fleet average MPG?
Either way, perhaps if they were to offer all options on a special order basis, the people could "get what they want" so long as they are willing to order it and wait. The vast majority would not likely place a special order, but would settle for what was on the lot, but wouldnt feel so turned off by the fact that its not even an option, particularly when limiting that option's availability makes little sense from a production stand point.
could be a win-win, if they did it right.
do special orders affect the fleet average MPG?
Either way, perhaps if they were to offer all options on a special order basis, the people could "get what they want" so long as they are willing to order it and wait. The vast majority would not likely place a special order, but would settle for what was on the lot, but wouldnt feel so turned off by the fact that its not even an option, particularly when limiting that option's availability makes little sense from a production stand point.
could be a win-win, if they did it right.
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I'm pretty sure that they do, it has to do with vehicles sold rather than who orders them.
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Meborder...you said it all. So what if it takes a special order? At least the buyer would get what they wanted. And if this is all due to CAFE then WHY doesn't Ford offer their most efficient Ecoboost in ALL F-150's? I think that issue is purely a marketing ploy.
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They don't? Which F150s can't be had with the ecoboost?
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Harley Davidson and SVT Raptor would be the only ones that you only can have with the 6.2 as far as I know.
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Unless somethings changed for 2012, I beleive you also cannot get an Ecoboost powered F-150 RCSB (Regular Cab Short Bed).
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Packaging or bundling options does save money as opposed to ordering just one component of a group. I don't particularly care for the way that Ford packages it's options and I don't agree with how engines are limited to certain trim levels.
They seem to have themselves convinced that what they are packaging is a cross section of what most buyers want. People are buying because it's what's being offered.
I think Ford should dump the STX and go back to the "Custom". It would be an XL truck with the complete engine line-up available, stout locking axles and all the work truck attributes that people want. That way a working man doesn't have to plop down $55K on a Plat that he doesn't need.
But, I don't think Ford is listening.
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i'm much more disappointed that the STX cannot be had in a crew cab than anything else.
If i were looking at Scabs, an STX would be my choice. They have all the features i do want (power windows, locks, cruise) without the stuff i don't want (convinence, carpet).
plus i think they are the nicest looking package south of the FX4.
i guess my thinking is, the STX is essentially an XL with a few selected XLT apperance items, and a slightly different grill shell. Seems reasonable to let me order a crew cab STX. Start off with an XL, slap on the XLT wheels and STX grill, and that's about it.
I get the packaging deal to save money overall, but i'm afraid by limiting certian options ford is pushing customers to other makers. particually by limiting engine choices.
If i were looking at Scabs, an STX would be my choice. They have all the features i do want (power windows, locks, cruise) without the stuff i don't want (convinence, carpet).
plus i think they are the nicest looking package south of the FX4.
i guess my thinking is, the STX is essentially an XL with a few selected XLT apperance items, and a slightly different grill shell. Seems reasonable to let me order a crew cab STX. Start off with an XL, slap on the XLT wheels and STX grill, and that's about it.
I get the packaging deal to save money overall, but i'm afraid by limiting certian options ford is pushing customers to other makers. particually by limiting engine choices.
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i'm much more disappointed that the STX cannot be had in a crew cab than anything else.
If i were looking at Scabs, an STX would be my choice. They have all the features i do want (power windows, locks, cruise) without the stuff i don't want (convinence, carpet).
plus i think they are the nicest looking package south of the FX4.
i guess my thinking is, the STX is essentially an XL with a few selected XLT apperance items, and a slightly different grill shell. Seems reasonable to let me order a crew cab STX. Start off with an XL, slap on the XLT wheels and STX grill, and that's about it.
I get the packaging deal to save money overall, but i'm afraid by limiting certian options ford is pushing customers to other makers. particually by limiting engine choices.
If i were looking at Scabs, an STX would be my choice. They have all the features i do want (power windows, locks, cruise) without the stuff i don't want (convinence, carpet).
plus i think they are the nicest looking package south of the FX4.
i guess my thinking is, the STX is essentially an XL with a few selected XLT apperance items, and a slightly different grill shell. Seems reasonable to let me order a crew cab STX. Start off with an XL, slap on the XLT wheels and STX grill, and that's about it.
I get the packaging deal to save money overall, but i'm afraid by limiting certian options ford is pushing customers to other makers. particually by limiting engine choices.
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The Japanese have done it for years with their "option packages" and few individual options. Simple economics. Fewer products to manufacture is fewer complications and less down time, less odd-ball inventory sitting, and as you said, increased profit as you order a package to get an option you want.
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The Japanese have done it for years with their "option packages" and few individual options. Simple economics. Fewer products to manufacture is fewer complications and less down time, less odd-ball inventory sitting, and as you said, increased profit as you order a package to get an option you want.
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What everyone else said and the fact that if you look at dyno graphs, the 6.2 doesn't live up to the hype. I know all of you want something special made just for you, but that is what the aftermarket is for. I personally believe the engine choices are pretty decent, not to mention how many different models there are. They could just go back to xl, xlt, and lariat and be done with it.