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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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They could just go back to xl, xlt, and lariat and be done with it.
Gotta have a top-of-the-line Ranger Lariat if they went back that far! The compact Ranger is gone in North America anyway, perfect timing! Sorry for the off-topic...

 
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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What everyone else said and the fact that if you look at dyno graphs, the <layer highlight="term-1" class="searchwp-term searchwp-highlight-searchwp-highlighting">6.2</layer> doesn't live up to the hype.
What hype is that? If we're talking about marketing hype, I think most of that centers around other Ford motors, not the 6.2.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Not marketing hype its just a choked out larger dislplacement motor. Thanks EPA.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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i'm much more disappointed that the STX cannot be had in a crew cab than anything else.

If i were looking at Scabs, an STX would be my choice. They have all the features i do want (power windows, locks, cruise) without the stuff i don't want (convinence, carpet).

plus i think they are the nicest looking package south of the FX4.

i guess my thinking is, the STX is essentially an XL with a few selected XLT apperance items, and a slightly different grill shell. Seems reasonable to let me order a crew cab STX. Start off with an XL, slap on the XLT wheels and STX grill, and that's about it.

I get the packaging deal to save money overall, but i'm afraid by limiting certian options ford is pushing customers to other makers. particually by limiting engine choices.
I would have loved an STX, but they are not available as screw. Put the stop for me right there.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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I don't see the 6.2L being choked. All the dyno graphs I've seen have been pretty favorable when compared to similar displacement factory V8's used in truck applications. 401hp on regular gas is nothing to sneeze at.

If anything, its biggest problem is that it's absurdly heavy. Ford lists it at 580lbs vs. 430lbs for the 5.0L, 485lbs for the 5.7L Hemi, or 415lbs for GM's 6.2L.

That's where it looses a lot of performance. In F150 applications it should have definitely gotten an aluminum block, but I guess Ford decided to save money by going with an iron block across the line.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 03 SVT VERT
I don't see the 6.2L being choked. All the dyno graphs I've seen have been pretty favorable when compared to similar displacement factory V8's used in truck applications. 401hp on regular gas is nothing to sneeze at.

If anything, its biggest problem is that it's absurdly heavy. Ford lists it at 580lbs vs. 430lbs for the 5.0L, 485lbs for the 5.7L Hemi, or 415lbs for GM's 6.2L.

That's where it looses a lot of performance. In F150 applications it should have definitely gotten an aluminum block, but I guess Ford decided to save money by going with an iron block across the line.
I think the heavier duty iron block may serve Ford better in the superduty trucks.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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I think Tim hit the nail on the head.

The only reason Ford is offering the 6.2 in the half ton market is to compete with Chevy who put their new 6.2 in their "heavy half" ... or whatever they are calling it now.

'course, chevy had to use their 6.2 to compete directly with the capabilities of the EB, but there is that segment that just wants a big-ole-honkin' V8, and nothin' else will do.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Interesting about the fuel usage and possable fines from the gooberment if the numbers get too low across the board. How does this effect the F350-F550 trucks? I just got my new service truck yesterday it is a 2012 F-450 flat deck 4x4 with the V10 With the heavy deck and the tool boxes it is a freeking beast and once it is finished up and loaded with all my tools and equipment I am pretty sure it is going to out weigh my 08 F-550 powerstroke by a little bit. I am thinking that once the motor is broken in it is still going to be a fuel pig. I was very happy with the 08 and it is going to be passed down the line to my leadhand. I fought a loosing battle for it to be another powerstroke to no avail. So time will tell if this new V10 is going to be any good. I am going to log the mileage and fuel consumption from day one and then once I get some numbers in the next few months I will post them up with the numbers I have for the 08 powerstroke. The company I work for does not really worry about fuel mileage as they are charging $1.58 per mile traveled on service jobs plus servive rates per man while driving by the hour. Fingers crossed that the gas V10 will be close to the powerstroke when I need some serious nuts for pulling while loaded.
 
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You all post very logical remarks but I still don't understand why Ford has options choices on some F-150's and not others. For example the ecoboost should be available on ALL F-150's as well as tire size that Ford has on its production floor.

If I want a F-150 XLT regular cab with the 20's then so be it. Just price it out and satisfy all potential truck buyers. What is so difficult about that? Someday some truck maker will in fact allow for such freedom of choices. It just takes one to start a new trend.
 
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