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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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drive your auto like it's an stick

I drive right foot for gas, left foot for brake...just a habit I've got from driving a stick so long



still can't see or understand how people "accidentally" get the gas and brake at the same time
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 05:27 AM
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I drive with left foot braking too - NEVER apply the brakes with the right foot. I switch back and forth between manual and automatic, and that seemed like the most sensible way to do it at the start (learned on manual).
Oh and it has nothing to do with the '63 Dodge I had that needed a toe on the gas pedal to keep it running when it's cold while braking with the left........
Can't imagine a boot size/foot position that would allow a person to cover the gas and brake at the same time - winter boots maybe?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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Sometimes when I brake, my foot also touches the accelerator pedal. If my foot is positioned just a little too far right on the brake pedal and if I brake very hard at all then it also pushes the go pedal.

On the way to the post office this morning someone decided to stop for a yellow at the last second. I braked but my truck kept going. The harder I pushed, the harder it accelerated, so much so that it started spinning the tires. I couldn't feel that I was pressing on the accelerator but quickly realized that I would have to bring my left foot into action on the brake and removed my right foot completely. (Consider that I was just a foot or so off her bumper by this time so I couldn't just let up on the brake)

I know how to "heel & toe" my corvette to rev match when shifting so I'm not just dumb or spastic. It seems that the brake pedal should be higher so as to not let this happen. The truck has the "pedal adjust" but they both move together. Any thoughts?

On my 2012 4wd lariat crewcab, the brake pedal is 2.5" higher than the gas pedal and they are 2 7/8" apart.

I looked at my 2000 F250 XLT 2wd drive, the pedals are the same size, brake pedal is 2.5" higher, they are a little closer together.

just make sure your foot is on the brake pedal.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
drive your auto like it's an stick

I drive right foot for gas, left foot for brake...just a habit I've got from driving a stick so long



still can't see or understand how people "accidentally" get the gas and brake at the same time
when you drive a stick, your left foot is for the clutch only, your right foot is for gas and brakes.

if driving an automatic, you should not use your left foot at all.

driving with two feet on an automatic, or using left foot for the brakes is how people accidentally hit the gas when they emant to hit the brakes, it happens with older people quite often.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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If you think the space is too tight, I wouldn't try driving a manual-trans performance car. Or any car until you find the problem...
very helpful
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokeispower
I drive with left foot braking too - NEVER apply the brakes with the right foot. I switch back and forth between manual and automatic, and that seemed like the most sensible way to do it at the start (learned on manual).
Oh and it has nothing to do with the '63 Dodge I had that needed a toe on the gas pedal to keep it running when it's cold while braking with the left........
Can't imagine a boot size/foot position that would allow a person to cover the gas and brake at the same time - winter boots maybe?
I wear a size 11 (not big compared to some) and if I have the ball of my foot firmly on the right side of the brake pedal my foot is also on the accelerator. I don't see this as a problem for everyone, I just traded in a Tundra and maybe something was different with the pedal spacing. I'm aware of it now and hope it won't happen again.

I'm beginning to think that maybe the brakes need bleeding because the pedal has too much travel.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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If you think the space is too tight, I wouldn't try driving a manual-trans performance car. Or any car until you find the problem...
I drive my 08 vette just fine (MT with a MGW 30% reduction shifter and never miss a shift) but then again I'm usually wearing these...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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I wear a size 11 (not big compared to some) and if I have the ball of my foot firmly on the right side of the brake pedal my foot is also on the accelerator. I don't see this as a problem for everyone, I just traded in a Tundra and maybe something was different with the pedal spacing. I'm aware of it now and hope it won't happen again.

I'm beginning to think that maybe the brakes need bleeding because the pedal has too much travel.
There is give in the brake pedal, I think a lot of it is in the brake booster, my brake pedal can go down about 2.5" or slightly more if I stand on it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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This happened to me once. I was wearing my flip flops. Luckily I was near home. I now never drive the Ex with flip flops. All my other vehicles were ok with them on.

If I do wear them in the Ex, I drive barefooted. Easy enough to take them off and put them back on when getting out.

Never happened again. When it did happen back then, scared the crap out of me. Couldn't stop, didn't know what was happening. Now I have to remind myself to pop it into N. V10 with 4.30 gear is darn powerful.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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I've had this happen on my 08 too. My excuse.....laziness of not moving my foot completely to the brake pedal. I was only pushing the the far right side. Never had any of the accelerating while braking situations but just felt my foot brushing the accelerator. I wear 13-14EE shoes (EE means WIDE) .

Same thing with the accelerator. I usually am just pressing the very bottom of the pedal so I don't get full WOT even if I jam it to the floor, which isn't a bad thing. I need to move my foot up on the pedal to get the thing moving. Again pure laziness on my part, not saying this is yours or anyones case.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokeispower
I drive with left foot braking too - NEVER apply the brakes with the right foot. I switch back and forth between manual and automatic, and that seemed like the most sensible way to do it at the start (learned on manual).
Oh and it has nothing to do with the '63 Dodge I had that needed a toe on the gas pedal to keep it running when it's cold while braking with the left........
Can't imagine a boot size/foot position that would allow a person to cover the gas and brake at the same time - winter boots maybe?
My stepmother does that too. I followed her couple of times and her brake lights were coming every few seconds at 70 mph. She is wearing brakes at alarming rate.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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If the brakes were soft I could push on both pedals in my 02.
They arent very far apart and its only because the brake pedal is hard that I dont push on both.

So I say it can be done by accident very easily.
 
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Good point about flip flops. I've had some scary experiences with them. Damn things just slide off the pedals. Especially the clutch for some reason
Originally Posted by jmiley
when you drive a stick, your left foot is for the clutch only, your right foot is for gas and brakes.

if driving an automatic, you should not use your left foot at all.

driving with two feet on an automatic, or using left foot for the brakes is how people accidentally hit the gas when they emant to hit the brakes, it happens with older people quite often.
No kiddin'. I was wondering how I was supposed to handle 3 pedals with only 2 feet

I've been driving 2 foot with auto's since I got my liscence. But my dad made me learn to drive a stick in 4x4Lo on a Bronco with a 4 speed, 1st was granny. You learn how to not snap your neck real quick

Btw, never done a brakestand by accident...ever. Done a few intentionally though. I can see how some of the older generation could get it wrong though. But typically they aren't driving anything with enough HP to overcome the brakes when just lightly overlapping the gas and brake
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus

Btw, never done a brakestand by accident...ever. Done a few intentionally though. I can see how some of the older generation could get it wrong though. But typically they aren't driving anything with enough HP to overcome the brakes when just lightly overlapping the gas and brake
What you are overlooking and what killed people in Toyota cases is that gasoline engines use intake vacuum for brake boosting.
Guess what? WOT = no booster.
Try to disconnect your booster and try it again? Make sure there are no other vehicles in 1 mile radius.
 
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