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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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The manual also had these diagrams:




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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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The truck in question is a 1996 correct? Wouldn't it have a Vapor Management Valve?

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Bill, are the resistance values different between the two?
Bingo! Sorry for long reply been busy up here at work between shop work and alingments
 
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Did you check the resistance of the VMV as Bill mentioned before?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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This thread is a couple of months old, but I am going to revive it since I have the same problem with my '96 F-150 5.8. CEL, flashing TCIL, codes P0443 and P0713. The transmission has definitely not been overheated; I bought it with a bad tranny and have had a gauge on it since day 1 with the replacement. I would not have thought these two were related, if not for this thread and this other one; after finding these, I unplugged the VMV and sure enough, the TCIL stops flashing.

I tested the VMV tonight; 32 ohms across the pins. I have battery voltage at the harness red wire with the key on. I have not yet tested the wire to the PCM but that is my next step.

Assuming there is not an open in the circuit to the PCM, any ideas?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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I did a little more investigating tonight; in addition to having power on the red wire, I have continuity on the green/black wire between the VMV connector and PCM pin 56. So the circuit seems OK; the VMV itself tests about 32 ohms across the pins.

Any suggestions? I am leaning more and more toward the PCM itself being the problem, but don't want to jump to conclusions.
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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The other thread showed one response where a new PCM fixed the issue. I am not sure if the poster had the same exact symptoms.

We did ask the OP to try disconnecting a different sensor to see if the symptoms changed. I am not sure if they ever tried that. The theory was another sensor was pulling down the VREF signal, the P0443 error was just another symptom not the root cause.
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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I had seen that post as well; I'm just trying to make sure I cover my bases before trying a different PCM.

I did see a post in the other thread where the OP disconnected a number of other sensors that you mentioned were in the same harness; regardless of what other sensors he unplugged, he got the same TCIL behavior relative to unplugging/plugging in the VMV connector.

I have not checked continuity to ground on the green/black wire under different conditions, as mentioned in this post, so I will try that tonight.

Besides P0443 and P0713, I also have a code (P1409) for a fault in the EGR vacuum solenoid circuit. Diagnostic results for the EVR circuit are about the same as the VMV circuit - power on the supply wire, continuity to the PCM on the return wire, appropriate resistance across the solenoid. I don't want to muddy the waters too much, but it seems like these could be two different manifestations of the same issue. What do you think?
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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My EVTMs are not close by ATM, I cannot verify if the EVR supply voltage is the same as the VMV. Regardless I would verify the supply voltage for the VMV is staying within range before going for a new PCM. A few minutes of rigging in a DVM then going for a drive would confirm or debunk my VREF theory.
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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I will give that a shot tonight and report back. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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The green/black wire seems to provide a path to ground any time it is connected to the PCM, key/engine on or off. It does not provide a path to ground when the PCM is disconnected, so I don't think I have a short in the wire.

Same story on the EVR circuit: supply wire is hot with key on; return wire provides a path to ground any time the PCM is hooked up, key/engine on or off.

I spliced into the red supply wire for the VMV and ran a wire into the cab to hook up my DVOM; driving around with the meter on I never saw it drop below 14V.

What else can I check?
 
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Old May 4, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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I posted about this issue and my diagnosis so far in an old thread I had going about my P0713 code; someone over there said they had solved this problem on more than one truck by replacing the PCM. I have one coming from a salvage yard; I will post back if it solves my problem.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by IJRoorda
The green/black wire seems to provide a path to ground any time it is connected to the PCM, key/engine on or off. It does not provide a path to ground when the PCM is disconnected, so I don't think I have a short in the wire.

Same story on the EVR circuit: supply wire is hot with key on; return wire provides a path to ground any time the PCM is hooked up, key/engine on or off.

I spliced into the red supply wire for the VMV and ran a wire into the cab to hook up my DVOM; driving around with the meter on I never saw it drop below 14V.

What else can I check?
Did you clear the codes before you drove the truck again? Did the Check Engine Light come on when you were driving?
 
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Old May 7, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Did you clear the codes before you drove the truck again? Did the Check Engine Light come on when you were driving?
I cleared the codes before I drove the truck; the CEL came back almost immediately with the same codes for EVR and VMV (not sure about the P0713 since my scanner does not read transmission codes).
 
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Old May 7, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by IJRoorda
I cleared the codes before I drove the truck; the CEL came back almost immediately with the same codes for EVR and VMV (not sure about the P0713 since my scanner does not read transmission codes).
I guess my Supply Voltage theory is busted.....
 
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