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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 05:35 PM
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Dual alternator question.

I ordered my 6.7 literally with everything...including the 2 alternators....will they charge my airstream batteries while towing?

I believe the purpose of them is for things like amps and fog lights..etc not or charging batteries while hooked up.

Hat do you us say?

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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I have the dual alternators as well. They can handle a lot more than just amps and fog lights. There is a switched battery terminal on the bargman 7-pin trailer connector that allows for charging of the trailer battery. It doesn't matter if you have dual alternators or not. So if you're hooked up properly, the answer is "yes".
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Do you know what pin it is? By swithched I assume you mean the ignition is on the pin is hot?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cold One
Do you know what pin it is? By swithched I assume you mean the ignition is on the pin is hot?
Yes I meant when the ignition is hot. Here is a diagram. Switched 12V is available on pin 4. I think the center pin (auxilliary) is usually used for reverse lights.

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Thanks Los341. Reps sent.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Matters what you mean by trailer batteries. The normal 7-pin provides power to charge, but it is up to the circuitry in the trailer in how it is used. It will almost always charge the emergency brake battery, but you need the trailer wired with a module capable of charging the main batteries to get charging on them.
 
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los341 thanks for the info!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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You shouldn't need dual alt to charge your trailer battery (s) while going down the road. My RV only has one Alt and it's capable charging both chassis and house battery going the down the road. Ideally, you should install a battery isolator in the charging circuit, in case you have a power drain in the trailer while the truck engine is turn off, you won't end up with dead truck battery(s).
 
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No problem glad I could help. Thanks for the reps!

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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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The 7 pin connector is only powered when the truck is running. Your dual alternators only run one at a time according to voltage they sense, they will switch between one and the other until all batteries in curcuit are charged. Also, the charge wire to the trailer batts is only 1 gauge, it's not charging the amount put through to the main batteries n the truck.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
...Your dual alternators only run one at a time according to voltage they sense, they will switch between one and the other until all batteries in curcuit are charged...
Please elaborate on this one...
 
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Check out Ford Bulletin Q160-R1 for some insight on the single/dual alternator setup on the 6.7L

Voltages are the same everywhere in the system. The dual onboard batteries have the same voltage (and maybe some drop across the tie cables but they are very close to 0 ohms).
The PCM controls the field coils in both alts to try to load balance as required due to the dissimilar ratings of both units but it's not really that precise, the control to the field coil operates in steps and is not continuously variable.
 
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
The 7 pin connector is only powered when the truck is running. Your dual alternators only run one at a time according to voltage they sense, they will switch between one and the other until all batteries in curcuit are charged. Also, the charge wire to the trailer batts is only 1 gauge, it's not charging the amount put through to the main batteries n the truck.
The service manual tells a slightly different story. It says there are 2 communication lines that control each alternator independently. The secondary alternator is kept in standby until the primary alternator has reached maximum capacity. At that point, the secondary alternator starts to output current in parallel with the primary unit.

So apparently the secondary alternator is only used when needed, but when it is needed, both alternators are used simultaneously.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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IIRC I believe at the GEM actually cycles both alternately over some time to balance load across each over time and to balance heat load. I read this somewhere on here from older threads and I doubt it has changed with model years. I think its possible it can run both under certain condition but it seems these conditions would be less frequent like after starting and discharged trailer batts all would cause the max output needed. normally, cycling between alts to manage duty cycle, so one doesn't die first.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
IIRC I believe at the GEM actually cycles both alternately over some time to balance load across each over time and to balance heat load. I read this somewhere on here from older threads and I doubt it has changed with model years. I think its possible it can run both under certain condition but it seems these conditions would be less frequent like after starting and discharged trailer batts all would cause the max output needed. normally, cycling between alts to manage duty cycle, so one doesn't die first.
Interesting... I won't say you are wrong because perhaps you know something more about this system than I do, but what I will say is that's not how the service manual describes it. It's very clear in stating that only the primary is used until the load is too high for the primary alone. Then the secondary unit starts to be used only for the portion of load current that is above and beyond the primary unit's capability.
 
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