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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Fender support question

Hello,

Quick question. I am doing my first attempts at body work on my 50 F1. So far, my patch panels (homemade) are working out. My question is on the front fender supports. Are the left and right interchangeable or side specific?

Mine came with two that appear identical and just wanted to know if I am missing one.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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When confronted with a question like this on these trucks, you will rarely go wrong by asking yourself, Could Henry save a penny by doing it this way? Using the same part twice saved a lot of money .
 
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Just finished the rough patching on the passenger side fender and hung it. I assumed the top of the brace was in contact with the fender, but now see that it is just the outer corner that connects to the fender.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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There is supposed to be a rubber piece that goes on top of the brace to fill the gap between the center of the fender and brace.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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RT and LT fender braces are the same, just inverted.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dmack91
Just finished the rough patching on the passenger side fender and hung it. I assumed the top of the brace was in contact with the fender, but now see that it is just the outer corner that connects to the fender.

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51PanelMan is correct, both L & R braces are the same. When I got my truck in October these parts were just left dangling by "Dr. Frank N. Stein", my trucks PO. I sandblasted, weld patched one outside tab and painted them. I was concerned about the space between the top of the brace and the fender. I found out that as Ross showed there is a rubber pad that fits on top of the brace. It was difficult for me to find but they are available from C&G EarlyFord as part #7RC-16153-A. I got a pair and they fits very nicely around the brace, but I still have a gap between the top of the rubber pad and the fender. I thought perhaps it was because I have 1952 sheet metal on a 1950 truck but it looks like that be normal? If so I am not sure of the purpose for the rubber pad. Maybe others can weigh in on this.
 
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The pads are available from any repro parts vendors. Pads are to prevent metal-on-metal wear and damage when you lean on the fenders to do work inside the engine compartment. That's the most logical idea I could come up with.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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The pads are available from any repro parts vendors. Pads are to prevent metal-on-metal wear and damage when you lean on the fenders to do work inside the engine compartment. That's the most logical idea I could come up with.
That sounds logical. I slipped a piece of semi-rigid sheet foam insulation between the rubber and the fender but it still didn't prevent oil canning of the fender when you lean on it. Maybe when I remove the fenders for painting I might add a self adhesive BetaBrace (see attached). That should take up the gap and add strength to the fender top. Has anyone tried that or am I the only one concerned about oil canning?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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I wouldn't add anything in between. Henry designed it to be that way for a reason.
 
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I have 'glass front fenders (thicker than steel) and the rubber still comes nowhere close to contacting the fender. When I still had steel fenders, they'd oil can so bad that tools would flip off the fenders when I took my weight off them. Never any lasting damage from it.

Pete, I can't exactly tell from that Dow attachment, but is that the foam sandwich stuff that is about 1/8" thick?
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
I have 'glass front fenders (thicker than steel) and the rubber still comes nowhere close to contacting the fender. When I still had steel fenders, they'd oil can so bad that tools would flip off the fenders when I took my weight off them. Never any lasting damage from it.

Pete, I can't exactly tell from that Dow attachment, but is that the foam sandwich stuff that is about 1/8" thick?
That is interesting. Thanks Ross. That gives me confidence to proceed.

I wouldn't call it foam it is more like a fiberglass patch with it's own adhesive. They make a variety of types. As we were cutting down on vehicle weight, particularly in the hood and doors, we ran into certain panels that would dent too easily. This would really make a big improvement in the strength of a panel while not adding significant weight. It is used by most all of the auto manufacturers in production of certain models. It is usually used in blind panels where there is no access from behind.


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I wouldn't add anything in between. Henry designed it to be that way for a reason.
Yeah, and Henry and Adolf were buddies too . I agree that if it contacted without any protection it would probably cause a spot to rust through. That is why I think something like BetaBrace would work as it would take up the gap, protect against rub through/corrosion, eliminate the oil canning and act as a sound deadener. I saw some similar products on Eastwood's website but I'm not sure that they are as strong as BetaBrace. I was just wondering if anyone else had tried anything.
 
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