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Old 02-16-2012, 09:41 PM
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Question Restoring 1960 223 Engine

Does anyone know of any websites that offer a complete overhaul kit for a 223 engine? I want to completely restore the engine to "new" condition.
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I have seen a few "complete overhaul kits" on Ebay and similar places, but I think you will be better served by doing it the old fashioned way.

Full line auto parts stores (I like NAPA and Federated) can get overhaul gasket sets, and the other parts you need such as rod and main bearing sets, cam bearing sets, rings, and so on. The first step to a complete overhaul is completely disassembling the engine and inspecting all of the hard parts (cylinder bores, pistons, rods, camshaft, head, crankshaft and so on) to see what is OK as is, what needs to be machined, and what needs to be replaced. From that point you can determine the parts needed.
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I got the gaskets at NAPA but they didn't have a lot of the stuff I needed for a total rebuild. I got some off Ebay and ended up getting the things I was missing from Northern Auto. 1-800-831-0884 They don't list all the old stuff they have on their website. I gave them a call and they had everything else I needed. As 3414 said, tear it down and see where you are first. You won't know what rings or bearings you need untill you do.
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I just got a catalog today from Northern auto and they do list a master rebuild kit for the 223 for about $550. You will have to get one year specific as the earlier ones have different width main bearings as do the '61- '64's. The kit that is listed states 54-64.
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Chuckly,you might be interested in checking out long-time member Col. Flashmans' built 223.I could not locate where, but someplace he gave the build specs.If he sees this,he'll likely respond,but I believe he had it built to eventually install in a 57-60 Mercury panel,and that he had it built to a list of specs put out by Offenhauser, or perhaps Clifford Performance.I've been intrigued by the 223, especially by the idea of having a fuel-sipping engine with "enough" giddyup.I would like to perhaps one day have one in an old pre-1948 truck, prolly just a pipe-dream.Pass that pipe this way,Bro.

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I've been intrigued by the 223, especially by the idea of having a fuel-sipping engine with "enough" giddyup.I would like to perhaps one day have one in an old pre-1948 truck, prolly just a pipe-dream.Pass that pipe this way,Bro.
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Steve, member 46yblock has a very lightweight truck with a fuel efficient Y-block.A somewhat built I-6 might be nice and affordable for just tooling around locally.
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I usually just go through my machinist for gaskets, seals, and engine parts. Prices are about the same as the box stores, the owner lives down the road from me so the money isn't going too far away, and the more parts I buy the better deal I get on machining so it's kinda a win win.

Plus a lot of parts jockeys wont be able to put together the contents of an engine kit unless you hold there hand through it.


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Yes, only mine would actually be up and running.

Just kidding, Scott!
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I'm going through a similar ordeal now with my 215. I had the machine shop tell me exactly what I need and then called Green Sales Co., Green Sales Company - Obsolete Ford parts, Lincoln, Mercury parts Green Sales Company, supplier of obsolete Ford parts and Lincoln / Mercury parts.* Our Ford parts inventory represents all Ford and Lincoln / Mercury products from 1950 to the present.. They carry a lot of obsolete and NOS parts. I was able to get everything from them, except for three .060 pistons, main bearings set and an oil pump. The complete engine overhaul gasket set is readily available from Mac's, DC or Sac Vintage Ford. I have about $600 into parts for this engine. Half of the price is for three pistons, main bearings set and an oil pump from EGGE. The rest was purchased from Green Sales, and I already had the engine gasket kit.

Kanters also sells complete engine overhaul kits. They have three levels of kits available depending on what you need. They're kind of pricey, though. FORD ENGINE PARTS

Like Col. Flashman's engine, I, too, am hot-rodding mine slightly. I already have a 2x Offy intake with two Holley 1904 glass bowl carbs, as well as an Offy valve cover. Since I can't locate a good and not cracked original exhaust manifold for my 52 215, I plan on getting a set of either Patriot or Clifford headers.
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Chuckly,you might be interested in checking out long-time member Col. Flashmans' built 223.
Uh, Col. Flashman has a swapped in 300 I-6 in his truck, with swapped in Toyota P/S. I've seen it with my very own eyes, kiddo...cuz it was parked in my garage while we were rubbing out the paint.

This is his 1958 Mercury M100 DD and is 2WD, not 4WD. The Mercury panel he owns is still parked where he bought it...in Canada.
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Uh, Col. Flashman has a swapped in 300 I-6 in his truck. I've seen it with my very own eyes, cuz it was parked in my garage while we were rubbing out the paint.

This is his DD and is 2WD, not 4WD.
Sorry.I knew he had the 300 in the "Mercury", but he said he has a 223 prepared to go into a panel, still in Canada,if I'm not mistaken.He does have some nice photos of it in his Gallery.I might have misunderstood.Was that what he replaced with his built 300?That 300 has got to be THE nicest, with an amazing build sheet.I've long drooled over it.

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