351c engine or redo 351w?
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351c engine or redo 351w?
Hey all,
I'm fairly new to this site. I didn't get a chance to read all of the posts, but did read most. So I'll add my 2 cents.
I'm building a Cleveland at this time.
When people hear this they say you have more options with a Windsor, you can do more, you can get more hp.
First off, how many options do you need?
yes it is a costly mill to build, I know...... but you don't have to do as much to the Cleveland as you would a Windsor to get equal hp.
Bottom line is the Cleveland "looooooks marvlous"
I'm fairly new to this site. I didn't get a chance to read all of the posts, but did read most. So I'll add my 2 cents.
I'm building a Cleveland at this time.
When people hear this they say you have more options with a Windsor, you can do more, you can get more hp.
First off, how many options do you need?
yes it is a costly mill to build, I know...... but you don't have to do as much to the Cleveland as you would a Windsor to get equal hp.
Bottom line is the Cleveland "looooooks marvlous"
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From: not mass
351c engine or redo 351w?
>>> kopfenjager
the diff b'tween the 351c and 400 are many
first the same design and engine family
most in portant do you want leave a chevy in the dust(crying i hope) horsepower
or do you want chevy dragging/breaking low end torque???
the 351m/400 will bolt to a 460 size bellhousing the block is pracicly limited to .040 over three inch main bearing the deck height is bigger(crank ctnr to deck(where you put the heads))
the 351c will bolt to the 302/351 wheezer or big si
240/300 inline six) mains 2.75 inch and .060 over is common as they are thicker
luckily the outside looks very very simular best way to tell is the only "truck" to get a clevland was the ranchero. and again bad news cars got all 3 and the valve covers are interchangable so if it say clevland and the covers has been changed ya still don't know
the diff b'tween the 351c and 400 are many
first the same design and engine family
most in portant do you want leave a chevy in the dust(crying i hope) horsepower
or do you want chevy dragging/breaking low end torque???
the 351m/400 will bolt to a 460 size bellhousing the block is pracicly limited to .040 over three inch main bearing the deck height is bigger(crank ctnr to deck(where you put the heads))
the 351c will bolt to the 302/351 wheezer or big si
240/300 inline six) mains 2.75 inch and .060 over is common as they are thickerluckily the outside looks very very simular best way to tell is the only "truck" to get a clevland was the ranchero. and again bad news cars got all 3 and the valve covers are interchangable so if it say clevland and the covers has been changed ya still don't know
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351c engine or redo 351w?
can you tell the diff. by looking at the heads?
I don't think the 400 or the 351M came with 4V heads, look for the 4 in the top corner.
This might only work for the 4V but it's a start.
I don't think the 400 or the 351M came with 4V heads, look for the 4 in the top corner.
This might only work for the 4V but it's a start.
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351c engine or redo 351w?
Most clevelands are 2V anyway. A 460 would kill any other ford or chevy motor out there. They simply make so much power and torque, After that the diesels take over.
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From: not mass
351c engine or redo 351w?
fine 460 but where is the peak torque at???
if you noticed the 400 has a longer stroke than a 460
as the 400 club knows long stroke===== bottom end torque the 300 "big six" has a 3.91 stroke if i want a truck those are the two choices 300 or 400
now if ya want to go to a sport truck give me a 351C 4v 4 bolt and a smile
if you noticed the 400 has a longer stroke than a 460
as the 400 club knows long stroke===== bottom end torque the 300 "big six" has a 3.91 stroke if i want a truck those are the two choices 300 or 400
now if ya want to go to a sport truck give me a 351C 4v 4 bolt and a smile
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351c engine or redo 351w?
Yeah but a 460 has a top end too, I don't really like them I never liked the one I had. I think the 351M is more suited to racing because it makes good torque and has a decent top end. The oiling "problem" is easy to fix.
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351c engine or redo 351w?
I don't know why, but I'd rather have a 429 than a 460 even though they are basically the same engine. I have a 429CJ and love it, and I just haven't seen a 460 that showed me a whole lot. Not to say that there aren't a ton of hot 460s out there, but could there be a reason Ford made 429CJs/SCJs and not a high performance 460? Just like the poor 400, it gets relegated to "truck motor" status. But just look what "truck motors" can do with good parts and some research. I'd take a good 351C over most, with that 429CJ right there with it. It depends; do I need something that will handle, or just blast off in a straight line? The cleveland would save me the front end weight, and the 429 would move me in a nice, straight line. And in a hell of a hurry.
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351c engine or redo 351w?
The first motor I built was a 429CJ, they have a killer bore to stroke ratio for high RPM, but Ford went cheap and made the con rods the same length. Sound familiar? The piston is taller and heavier than needed. It would rev higher and faster if Ford had built it right.
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