went to a auction last night and watched two cans of the old R-12 freon sale for $30.00 a can, that seems high to me, what have you heard it goes for?

 

>> IF << you can find it, I've seen more like $20 a can on Craigslist and at swap meets, but there were 12 oz and 16 oz cans, too. A full pound might well go for $30.

 

Sounds about right. A friend of mine bought the R12 cans by the case load before they were made obsolete. He now sells them for about $25/can or 4 for $100 on Craigslist.

 

Well I guess he wasn't to far off. I did find a couple cans last summer at a yard sale, I got both cans for fifteen bucks. My old dually still has the R-12. Trying to cool down a crew cab can be a real choir.

 

I sold 4 cases of the 12 oz cans for around $15 per can last year. I stocked up before the ban, but ended up selling off my last R12 vehicle a few years ago. I found out that Fedex ground allows shipments of small quantities without any special hazmat issues.

Have you seen the new deal in California for the R-134?? They figured out that R-134 is ozone depleting too...I can see a ban coming. They put $10 per can core charge on the cans....and you have to bring the empties back to the auto store within 90 days. That'll put a damper on guys stocking up with a lifetime supply.

 

Leave it to California to do something like that. I wonder how accurate their research really is??? I always convert everything to 134-a. It's not that big of a deal. You just need to change to PAG oil. I got the license to buy and handle R-12 but I never buy it. On thing I have ever run into doing the conversion is sometimes it requires a different orifice. In the case of Ford they have a whole range of them.

 

It ain't just Cali, Europe is already starting to phase 134 out. It isn't ozone depleting, but it's a greenhouse gas. The new stuff looks to me to be mega-bucks (and I don't think there's really a new "standard" gas). As I recall the US is to phase out 134 by 2020. STOCK UP!!

PS -- 134 has crept up to almost $15 a can around here, WTH?!

 

So now, Dupont, or someone, has come up with another new and improved, and more expensive, refrigerant? The only to make everyone use it is to outlaw the old stuff, just like they did with R-12. Come up with some phony BS reason not to use the existing product, get the environmental activists involved, which gets the politicians to jump on board so they can get re-elected. First it was the 'ozone hole', and when that closed up, suddenly we're trapping 'greenhouse gases'. I sure would like to know what caused all the glaciers to melt before we had air conditioning.

 

Politician's hot air.

 

I've been using Red Tek 12A in my 86 Ford Motorhome. It's about $15.00 or less and readily available. I've used it every year for 4 years and have not had a problem.