DuraMax
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
I wonder if this is going to be one of those problems that aftermarket parts are the big savior. I wonder if there could be any kind of filter that could keep the high pressure and volume but keep all that junk out of the injectors. I dont have to worry about this problem for awhile I wont be able to afford a 2012 6.7 until around 2020 after all that depreciation I might be able to pick up a used one lol.
You and me Both Id have to get one for Dirt cheap
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Fleet Owner
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What I take from the posts is that a fuel additive (for lubricity) is an absolute MUST. If you have that, you should be fine. I would bet that aftermarket (and more reliable) fuel pumps will be available also.
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From: Fox Island, WA
Iv been on the 6.7 forum to and that scares the Daylights out of me too
The 500 ponies stock would be GREAT But the rest of it IDK
then A guy cant even change those injectors M-Chane tells me they each need to be programmed specific truck
He also told me that to change that High press fuel pump on a 6.4 the cabs coming off
These 6.0s are the Last truck an owner could wrench and fix most things
there just setting them up Now so each Component needs to be programmed to the PCM when it needs changing so an owner can no longer work on there ride and has to Haul it in to the Dealer no matter what. I do agree that some things just better that the Dealer does computers and such but not stuff like injectors ect.....
Iv Just come to the conclusion I HAVE to MAKE this 6.0 LAST I can actulley wrench on this one for the most part (give or take a FICM or PCM failure) With the Help of the FTE and the Techs on here
The last couple of weeks in my fight to make this truck last Iv been crawling under it with rust remover and a can of rubberized under coating I did the oil pan and front axel so far and looks Great. Rust will be the Death of my truck if I just let it go
The 500 ponies stock would be GREAT But the rest of it IDK
then A guy cant even change those injectors M-Chane tells me they each need to be programmed specific truck
He also told me that to change that High press fuel pump on a 6.4 the cabs coming off
These 6.0s are the Last truck an owner could wrench and fix most things
there just setting them up Now so each Component needs to be programmed to the PCM when it needs changing so an owner can no longer work on there ride and has to Haul it in to the Dealer no matter what. I do agree that some things just better that the Dealer does computers and such but not stuff like injectors ect.....
Iv Just come to the conclusion I HAVE to MAKE this 6.0 LAST I can actulley wrench on this one for the most part (give or take a FICM or PCM failure) With the Help of the FTE and the Techs on here
The last couple of weeks in my fight to make this truck last Iv been crawling under it with rust remover and a can of rubberized under coating I did the oil pan and front axel so far and looks Great. Rust will be the Death of my truck if I just let it go
Sorry, couldn't help it...........NOT hating, love all PSD's
Iv been on the 6.0 forum to and that scares the Daylights out of me too
The 325 ponies stock would be GREAT But the rest of it IDK
then A guy cant even trust his oil cooler from clogging and blowing his heads.
He also told me that to change the heads on a 6.0 the cabs coming off
These 7.3s are the Last truck an owner could wrench and fix most things
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Joined: Oct 2007
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From: North Pole Alaska
Tell that to one of those 5 percent guys that him having to drop 10K on a repair bill just out of warrenty.....while he still has 2 years left to pay on the truck. Tell him its OK because only 5 percent of those trucks will fail. See how many of your teeth you keep.
LOL this thread reminds me of my dad and grandpa complaining about how crowded and hard to work on their new vehicles were when they started fixing their vehicles made in the 90's They went from a carburated motor that dident have much for emissions to a fuel injected motor that was starting to crowd the engine compartment with things like AC and emissions, and now look at things. So anyway if we take the 6.7 and compare the cost/reliability of the truck maybe things are not as bad as they sound. Yeah 10k is a huge bill, but if its a problem affected by less than 5% of the trucks under 300k miles they its not so bad. This is just an example I dont think they have been around long enough for us to be reading about 300k lol but soon.
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From: Whittier, CA
Since October, I've put $4K into this truck, including 4 injectors for $2,800. That's just on the non-routine engine stuff. And it is in the shop right now for what I expect will be a HPO leak. Probably another $2k or so for that. I'm at 89k miles.
Add in routine stuff like brakes, driveshaft, batteries and tires, I've put $5,700 out since October, plus whatever diagnosis comes back on Monday.
But I don't complain much on here. I just pay the bill, and figure it is the cost of owning an RV pulling machine. Still, I sure don't want to compare invoices with my Cummins driving brother. His is $0.
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It might have been around Longer BUT it looks to be 10Xs more Expensive when the pump fails and takes the rest of the system componets out and if you have a 6.4 the cabs coming off to change the pump and if you have a 6.7 all the injectors need to be programmed to the specific truck so its not what I would call Owner Freindly
Now Look at the 6.0 when the HPO pump fails normally you will change the pump and your good to go
Now the newer ones you get to rebuild the whole system everything pump,injectors,supply lines ect....
Maybe more reliable but Lots of Damage to the Old Bank account when things do go south
Now Look at the 6.0 when the HPO pump fails normally you will change the pump and your good to go
Now the newer ones you get to rebuild the whole system everything pump,injectors,supply lines ect....
Maybe more reliable but Lots of Damage to the Old Bank account when things do go south
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From: The Great State of Texas
Not to stir the pot, but there's no doubt the 6.0 psd engine is not the engine to go compare the cost of ownership to a equivalent year Duramax or Cummins engine. Also when comparing the 6.0 psd to the other engines you also have to include all the optional hardware $$$ (IMO not always required) to keep this engine running healthy (i.e. guages, coolant filters, EGR coolers, Oil coolers, etc).
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From: Whittier, CA
He could probably change a few transmissions for what it costs to keep a 6.0 on the road. But no matter what he changes, he cannot change it into a Superduty. Like I said, I don't complain about the cost too much (I do a little).
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From: Woodbridge, Ontario, CA
I wish I had a lot more customers like you in my neck of the woods. It seems people like you are the very few far more understanding people that have things in perspective when it comes to cost of ownership of these machines.
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From: Whittier, CA
Don't want to make this thread about me (sob), but will add that to be fair, I only needed one injector, but replaced the entire bank. I bought a FICM up front AND had mine repaired, so that I would have a spare. Could have replaced a glow plug myself if money was an issue. So I spent more than was necessary, because I plan to keep the truck.