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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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If you've torn it down that far, you could possibly pull the LPOP cover and inspect the gerotor gears for scoring and damage. That'll tell you real quick, if you have any roller lifter needle bearings (or anything else) that might have failed. By removing the drive belt and running the engine with the noise still present, you have eliminated the belt and EVERYTHING it drives as the source.

Something else to consider. Believe it or not, these engines CAN be started and ran with the transmission removed. I have done it a few times.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Ive never pulled the front cover off. Ive heard that I could mess up something with the crank if I dont cut the sealant????? Any quick pointers for removing the front cover. Can I leave the intake on? Thanks in advance mchan, and william for the fix on the link. Should I go ahead and replace the lpop while im in there? Or at least have one in hand ready to replace? Theres prob very little chance in the noise being the lpop huh?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Also, can the lifters be changed without removing the heads (if I get both front and rear covers off)? Not sure if I wanna go that route, just exploring options.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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I never said anything about removing the front cover, only the LPOP cover (five bolts after you've removed the four 18mm bolts and the crank pulley) for access to the gerotor inner and outer gear for inspection. If any damage is found, then SOMETHING went through it.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
Also, can the lifters be changed without removing the heads (if I get both front and rear covers off)? Not sure if I wanna go that route, just exploring options.
To change out a cam and lifters requires engine removal, cylinder heads, all eight piston and rod assemblies, bedplate, crankshaft and lastly the cam. In that exact order too. It's not so much the parts that are expensive but the labour required to change it out.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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Dang, so thats why most would just call blackstone huh,,, Pardon my ignorance, but when you say crank pulley, you are talking about the pulley that spins while running without the drive belt on? Is it also called the harmonic balancer??? if so, then behind that I can get access to the lpop? Thanks again.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
Dang, so thats why most would just call blackstone huh,,, Pardon my ignorance, but when you say crank pulley, you are talking about the pulley that spins while running without the drive belt on? Is it also called the harmonic balancer??? if so, then behind that I can get access to the lpop? Thanks again.
That is correct.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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Should I have the oil drained? Will a lot leak out? Sorry for all the questions. Thank you again.
 

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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by run6.0run
Should I have the oil drained? Will a lot leak out? Sorry for all the questions. Is the cover seal available without buying the oil pump. Thank you again.
Oil loss should be very minimal, if any. Yes the front crank seal and cover gasket are available by themselves, or come with a new LPOP. But the catch is, to install a new front crank seal will require the use of this installer tool.

https://rotunda.spx.com/en-US/Pages/...x?itemID=18653
Tool number 303-761
 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:16 AM
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Mike - do you have part numbers for the crank seal and the cover gasket?

Is there a tool for pulling the sleeve initially?

Also - are the roller lifter bearings magnetic?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 06:32 AM
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X2 on those ?'s.

Btw, what is also kinda wierd, if you look ast when this thread started, I think this was about 30k mi ago when it first started chirping. Then it went away for about 30k mi. now its back.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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I too had this problem. Noone could figure it out, i changed water pump and various pulleys and still had it. I had the bearings changed in the alternator and hear the noise one time that day and never again. prob been 3,000 miles and sounds great still. Hoping it doesnt come come back in 30,000 again. Or maybe by then someone figures it out. Mine was exactly the same noise.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Hey man, I had the exact same problem I, sounds like it anyway.

F250 noise under turbo - YouTube

I replaced the STC fitting when I did the EGR delete to no avail. It ran like a top and never skipped a beat. I talked to M-Chan and Cheezit and it was leaning towards being a lifter as well. In some ways, I lucked out and the ex wife totaled the truck so we got paid.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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at least I dont feel so alone now. Hopefully someone on here has broken it down after having that noise. I am sure if enough time passes, I'm gonna be forced to find the answer. I haven't pulled the oil pump cover yet. Can I just pull the cover and inspect without messing with the front crank seal?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wezol5484
Hey man, I had the exact same problem I, sounds like it anyway.

F250 noise under turbo - YouTube

I replaced the STC fitting when I did the EGR delete to no avail. It ran like a top and never skipped a beat. I talked to M-Chan and Cheezit and it was leaning towards being a lifter as well. In some ways, I lucked out and the ex wife totaled the truck so we got paid.

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Glad to see you're still around
 
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