Fuel pump?
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I'm not convinced the filters were the issue. They look relatively clean. Probably were okay for a bit more but I thought that might have been the issue.
It was very cold (11°) the night before it quite running. Not sure what that could do with it but thought that I would through that out.
It was very cold (11°) the night before it quite running. Not sure what that could do with it but thought that I would through that out.
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Before you start throwing parts at your truck at least get it code scanned. Just because you don't have a CEL doesn't mean it doesn't have codes. And I can't believe on an 05 no one has mentioned the STC fitting yet although everyone was focused on fuel because of the lack of fuel in the secondary filter. FWIW--it doesn't take that long to get fuel down the lines and into the heads. Do you have any smoke while cranking the truck?
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I'm not convinced the filters were the issue. They look relatively clean. Probably were okay for a bit more but I thought that might have been the issue.
It was very cold (11°) the night before it quite running. Not sure what that could do with it but thought that I would through that out.
It was very cold (11°) the night before it quite running. Not sure what that could do with it but thought that I would through that out.
Or so I'm told. Never had this issue myself.
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When you change the fuel filters you don't remove the fuel from the fuel lines to the heads. There is an air bleed from the top of the secondary fuel filter housing back into the return line to take care of air when you change filters. It doesn't go into the fuel lines and down into the injectors. Cycling the key about 3 times should easily take care of any air in the fuel system.
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Did he do that? All we know is that he was cranking it with an empty fuel bowl. We don't know why the fuel bowl was empty. He didn't change filters until later.
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on that point also Bill. First the fuel bowl is empty then it's full..........
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There could be any number of reasons why it won't start. But I'm just focusing on a fuel delivery problem. Based on the empty bowl. But with this seemingly conflicting info, it is a guess at best.
FN Phat, do you have an OBD monitoring gauge, like a Scangage or Edge Insight? That could tell you a lot.
FN Phat, do you have an OBD monitoring gauge, like a Scangage or Edge Insight? That could tell you a lot.
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There could be any number of reasons why it won't start. But I'm just focusing on a fuel delivery problem. Based on the empty bowl. But with this seemingly conflicting info, it is a guess at best.
FN Phat, do you have an OBD monitoring gauge, like a Scangage or Edge Insight? That could tell you a lot.
FN Phat, do you have an OBD monitoring gauge, like a Scangage or Edge Insight? That could tell you a lot.
Confession Time: The first time that I went and looked at the top filter it was night time and out in the driveway. <embarrased> I did not see any fuel because it was not the fuel filter that I was looking at...it was the oil filter
I realized it this morning when I went back out to change the filters </embarrased>With that dark secret out of the way...I had the batteries tested and they checked out good...just needed a bit of a charge because of the cranking trying to get it started. Still nothing. It just cranks and cranks but will not start. As you can tell by my newbie misfortunes, I am no backyard mechanic but I am on a blue collar salary and have tried my best to do what I can but it might be time to bring it in to a shop.
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A SGII shure would be helpful here but start going thru this no start checklist and post your results
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html
A couple quick things would be unplug the ICP and try
And check all fuses
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html
A couple quick things would be unplug the ICP and try
And check all fuses
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From: mckenna wa
You pulled the oil filter and your dad cranked. You stated you were not seeing fuel because at the time you thought it was the fuel filter. I would check it again this time hold the little drain back valve down your housing should fill within 10 seconds of cranking. Sounds to me like a low pressure oil delivery problem.
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