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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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I've never seen that happen, that the rubber hose broke the plastic tip off, and the tip stayed stuck in the hole.

And no you can't really leave that hole open, or you'll have an ungodly mess under the hood after abit of driving....

You'll have to fish out that fitting from the hole in the intake, and just find a small enough Rad hose, cut to length and put 'er back on.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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theres a plastic nipple in the intake? i see the rubber gromlet that appears to slide over the hose... and seat in the pan.... but i dont see plastic anything... theres nothing that appears that was in the other rubber end of the hose that was attached to the cdr when i took it off...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vfelix702
Cdr good bad ugly? What do I do with the broken hose? Is there a groumlet that slides over the hose after it gets seated in the nipple? In the mean time can I just stuff a rag in the hole? Or leave it open till I find the correct diameter hose to put back on it?
That hose is no longer available. I think I would try to find a nylon double barbed hose mender that fit the ID of the hose. You would probably have to shorten one side to fit the part that is still in the valley pan. By the looks of the pics, it has been cracke half off for a while.
The good part, the piece that is still in the valley pan broke at the right spot for the 093 turbo drain, if you get one. The outside diameter of the drain is the same as the inside of the piece that is still in the valley pan.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Ya I see that now lol the cdr is clean and I see it all as one piece... This is what I bought as I thought diff... So what now as the hose I bought the od is slightly larger than the old cdr hose.. Lol
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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I have clear silicone rated up to 400f to fill in the gap... Around the valley pan gromlet hole...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Well I ended up just cutting a 4in piece and putting it in like that for now till I can find the cdr hose I can't imagine it being any worse as the tube was cracked any way.... I just sleeve the I'd part of the hose and the gromlet in the vally pan with 1in copper or a copper sleeve. For sweating or braizing copper pipe together tommorw.... At work lol
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 12:36 AM
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Well gents i got some bad news for you. i my self had taken my cdr off. put a drt on it and it still continued to smoke like a sob unless i was driving and even when i was driving it still continued. For those of you who dont know and or are curious, i changed my oil. In doing so i came to realize that said gromet on the valley pan is not water proof! or fuel proof for that matter. IF YOU HAVE TURNED UP YOUR FUEL RECENTLY, CHANGE IT IF IT IS SMOKING LIKE A CHIMNEY. As far as the CDR goes its really nothing at all special. Truefully the only purpose it has is to remove excess oil via burning it off. i had taken this said part apart and in doing so i also took pictures in which i can not upload cause im too broke to buy a website account from a fourm. its almost like trying to buy a account from facebook seems to be worthless even having the thing. So if you would like to see these pictures then you can email me. idk about email links so imma just put my email in here it is bmxriders04@yahoo.com. also i have a picture of this other hole that is on my valey pan to show whom ever was asking about it. Another thing is that if you do put a drt tube on your vehicle and you use it to go off roading alot then i suggest that you find something to plug the hole that goes into the intake other wise you will be in for one heck of a headache. so please if you have any other questions or if you know any better than me please tell me cause im not super man at this crap i just get curious and tear crap apart
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 01:15 AM
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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On mine and the spare engine I have (both are 86 6.9's) there is a steel tube between the cdr and the valley pan not a rubber hose. It has a nylon sleeve at the cdr to seal it up and the gromet in the valley pan. When the cdr is working right there is a spring inside with the diaphram that closes it partially off as the pressure goes up with higher rpms. This helps to keep the oil out of the intake and prevent runaways (at least it seems to work that way lol). When I get the time and money I will be instaling my cdr delete system. It will be a "catchcan/seperator" back by the rear axle on the frame. I want to run a 90 out of the valve cover (like on a gasser) and some clear tubing back to the can. Then run the same clear tube back up to the air filter housing (also like a gasser). The long run to the back and down hill both ways will alow the vapor the condense and the oil to collect in the can. The clear tubing will allow me to monitor the amount of oil making it to the intake.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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okay pretty self explainitory on the photos there, is what i did was i swicthed it around and i i had put the diaprahm on the center hole, then put the spring in it, then put the top back on. Which wasnt a good idea because it built up too much pressure so i couldnt take it back apart. so if you are gonna do the same thing then i would recomend that you cut some of the spring off and test it via blowin in it to see and make sure that you got it to a good pressure release. so that way it will only allow to blow in gases when needed too. also yes if you have turned up your fuel lately and you just let it drain into that valley pan i would recomend you change your oil for the fuel could have gotten into the oil diluting it greatly which was my problem basicly turned it into black water. Just the way the cdr was set up i think was a design flaw because it was described as a crankcase decompression regulator which it should have been designed the way i had just done mine. the other way around seems to be useless and a waste of money on my end because that spring is too strong to allow that diaprham to close when its idleing is my thoughts on it but the i done it just seems to be more logical design considering the name of it
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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Exactly what my conclusion was with the CDR. The spring is on the engine side. The only time the valve will close is when there's a vacuum in the engine block and in the intake. You won't suck that much vacuum on the intake side unless your filter is plugged beyond belief, and crankcases usually have trouble with EXPELLING pressure, not a vacuum problem. CDR makes no sense in how it's actually meant to work - as designed it acts only as a pricey tube.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Exactly what my conclusion was with the CDR. The spring is on the engine side. The only time the valve will close is when there's a vacuum in the engine block and in the intake. You won't suck that much vacuum on the intake side unless your filter is plugged beyond belief, and crankcases usually have trouble with EXPELLING pressure, not a vacuum problem. CDR makes no sense in how it's actually meant to work - as designed it acts only as a pricey tube.

i think its designed to prevent run away diesels when its high reved it closes the cdr stopping the crankcase gases from being sucked into the intake and burned, thats what i believe anyhow.

been wrong before.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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Exactly what swoosh said its an over priced hose that's all it is and although its supposed to shut when u "over rev" it there's no way that the gasses could possibly push it shut genes my reasoning behind switching everything around. So that it will and can actually act as a correct check valve and only open when it is under too much pressure as I said before that had to of been a design flaw when they he'd made them . Again if im wrong please tell me and ill let you know my opinion on it again im not a specialist on this stuff and also if your over revving it that much then u should be having other problems besides the "cdr" to be wrong
 
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