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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Treadwright Retread Failure at 75 MPH

Well after 30,000 miles I had a Treadwright tire fail at 75 mph. No injury to the passengers but some minor damage to the wheel well.

Truck was not loaded at the time of failure. The tire was located on the drivers front side. Prior to failure I noticed a vibration and within 30 seconds the tire failed. Should have pulled over but the decision making time was limited...and I chose wrong.

At this point I have lost faith in retreads but not certain if there is more to it than the tire.

I plan to go and buy a new set of BFGs or Cooper tires tomorrow. Can't justify saving a few hundred dollars when it could have been my wife driving the pickup...

I am thinking of putting 255/85's on it. Thoughts?

Thad
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Ya re-treads = trouble. Good choice!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:17 AM
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any reason you're sticking with a narrow/skinny tire?

wider looks better of course, but then again they will give you a MPG hit
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Can't justify saving a few hundred dollars when it could have been my wife driving the pickup
too true. good choice on getting new tires
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
any reason you're sticking with a narrow/skinny tire?

wider looks better of course, but then again they will give you a MPG hit
too true. good choice on getting new tires
For two reasons:

I don't have lift so I can't go bigger than 33" without making changes and for the style of driving I do the skinny tires will perform better.

I really wanted to be able to trust these tires but now I really don't!

Thad
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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How did the tire fail? Was it a blow out, or tread separation?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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What tire pressure did you run in them? I have a set of the 285/70/17 bfg style on ky truck now and couldn't be happier with them. This would make the first negative review I have found on these tires and its kinda surprising.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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Having run retreads a fair bit in my life, I will say this. Non re-tread tires fail also. I've experienced tread separation in a non-retread tire, but I've actually never had it happen with a re-tread.

A sample of one does not make a statistic.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Here is the blown out area of the tire:




Here is another view and if you look close you can see the cracks in the rubber...(shame on me for not being more attentive):




This is the minor damage (really it just pulled the mud flap and the sheet metal is bent):




This is the new tire that has been on the rig for a few months now:




If you guys are curious or have any questions just ask. I want to be fair to Treadwright and not have people shy away from their products based on my experience. Whos knows why it failed?

Thad
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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From the pictures that doesn't appear to be tread separation. Tread separation (in my experience) occurs across the entire tread and, while the tread comes off, the casing remains intact and continues to hold air (unless you keep driving on it, then it will eventually wear through the casing and pop). That appears to be a failure of the casing.

The casing may have been bad when they did the re-tread and they didn't catch it in their inspection process. But like I said, I've seen non re-tread tires do pretty much the same thing.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Well, I ended up just going out and buying 285/75R16 BFG AT's. This is my third set so I know what I am getting.

I was really hoping the Treadwrights would be good for the long haul but we'll see. I plan to run the two new ones I have (no cracking or imperfections) on my 87 F250. Time will tell if they have any issues. At least on that rig if the tire goes out I won't be goin more than 55 mph and I coundn't care less if it damages the truck.

Thad
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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It looks alot like belt failure,of of the reasons I stay away fron retreads because they do not chech for plugs or plugged tires which let corrosion in and in time the corrosion does damage to the belts resulting in a blow out. Try having one on an 18 wheeler it real fun @80K
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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It looks alot like belt failure,of of the reasons I stay away fron retreads because they do not chech for plugs or plugged tires which let corrosion in and in time the corrosion does damage to the belts resulting in a blow out. Try having one on an 18 wheeler it real fun @80K

I don't know about treadwright, but other retreads we get in semi and dump truck sizes for our farm are x-rayed before they re-cap them to make sure the belts are still good...
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dakotajeep
Here is the blown out area of the tire:




Here is another view and if you look close you can see the cracks in the rubber...(shame on me for not being more attentive):




This is the minor damage (really it just pulled the mud flap and the sheet metal is bent):
Holy cow! Scary pics. I'm glad you're OK. Personally, I've never even considered retreads because my LIFE is worth a little bit more than what I can save on tires. Glad nothing bad happened at 75mph.
Buy new, and replace them before they are more bald than the top of my head... that's my motto.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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That definitely is carcass failure, not tread failure. But that is always the risk with retreads. You just don't know what that carcass has been through. Especially when they use a KO carcass that might have been on someones rock crawling rig. You might run Treadwrights for the rest of your life and never see this again, but there is always that risk.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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I didnt think you were supposed to run re-treads on steer tires?
 
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