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Dec 19, 2011 | 05:44 AM

hardRESET

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HELP - 6.0L PSD Starting problems...

I had finished driving the truck on Saturday successfully with no issues or indications that there was anything wrong. Did not drive it on Sunday, and went to start it this morning and it will not start.

What it is doing...

I am in Florida so it is only 54 degrees by the Truck-o-meter.
All lights in the dash indicate everything is normal.
The fuel pump sounds as if it is running as normal.
Starts to fire, then doesn't.
Turn off, repeat.

Dec 19, 2011 | 05:53 AM

zhilton

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Without knowing what codes the truck is throwing...it could be a couple of things. I'd check the batteries and make sure they're good to go. Then I'd work through this troubleshooting check list:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html

Dec 19, 2011 | 05:58 AM

hardRESET

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Why yes, it is that big..

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At the mercy of...

Please keep in mind that I am not a mechanic and sadly since I know of noone in Jacksonville to help me out with this that I will be at the mercy of Mike Shad Ford. I guess that if there is something simple that I can do that I can try before hand or at least have any idea what it should be before I take it in that is what I am waiting for.

Dec 19, 2011 | 06:13 AM

Rusty Axlerod

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I would definitely follow the link zhilton posted for you above. Several thing in there that don't require any tools. Also, when the dealership calls you back and explains the problem it may help if it's somthing you just read about.

Dec 19, 2011 | 06:21 AM

zhilton

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I don't know if you've got to have the truck today or if it can sit a couple days while you work on it in your spare time. But if it was me, here's what I do....work through that troubleshooting checklist as best as you can. If you get confused...come back here and post a question asking "how do you do this test?". Or I would look in the FL chapter here on FTE (Florida Chapter - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums) and see if there is someone near me that might have an AE or experience spinning wrenches on these motors. That's how I found the guy near me that has helped out in the past. Personally, the dealership would be my last resort, but if you need the truck quick...and not very mechincally inclined, the dealership maybe your best option. I'd still want to be prepared for their diagnoses of the problem. They may or may not try to snowball you into something you don't need.

Dec 19, 2011 | 06:29 AM

hardRESET

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Why yes, it is that big..

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Sadly...

zhilton, Yes I am already a member of the Florida Chapter and haven't really found anyone that in Jacksonville that can help. Without a major tow fee, I am stuck. And unfortunately my wonderful apartment complex does not allow any type of do-it-yourself stuff in their parking lots. I looked through the list and most sounds like as if nothing is happening for the no start. Whereas mine does turn over and starts to fire but that is all.

Dec 19, 2011 | 06:41 AM

zhilton

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I am already a member of the Florida Chapter and haven't really found anyone that in Jacksonville that can help.

Well crap, that doesn't help much. You'd think there would be several folks from the greater Jacksonville area in the chapter...it is a good sized city for crying out loud.

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Without a major tow fee, I am stuck. And unfortunately my wonderful apartment complex does not allow any type of do-it-yourself stuff in their parking lots.

Yeah, that does put you between a rock & a hard place.

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I looked through the list and most sounds like as if nothing is happening for the no start. Whereas mine does turn over and starts to fire but that is all.

When you say starts to fire...does it hit on a couple of cylinders? Starts to run, but then dies right after you let off the key? Without pulling the codes the truck is throwing...they're there even if the CEL light isn't on...it's hard to point you to the problem. I don't know if you could get away with checking the codes at your apartment complex. It would look like your sitting in the truck listening to the stereo...not like you'd have parts laying every where. I don't want to get you in trouble with your landlord...just suggesting.

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Dec 19, 2011 | 11:19 AM

BLADE35

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But you have to have a special piece of equipment for that correct? Or at bare minimum a ScanGauge? Isn't that correct?

yes you need something to check the codes with

I wouldnt worrey to hard about the apartment rules I lived in one of those places once
I would change the oil and minimal stuff

Mainly they dont want junk cars and moters that have been pulled and parts laying all over

Just keep it clean
they dont want a wrecking yard at the aparrment complex

If they say anything tell them if you dont get it running you Cant pay rent

Dec 19, 2011 | 11:49 AM

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if he was just a tad closer i could help, i have the AE, and the scanguage but jacksonville is a little far for me

Dec 19, 2011 | 11:52 AM

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how many miles on your rig? also, has the STC fitting been updated on your truck, it is a known issue with the 2005 MY to cause no start issues

Dec 19, 2011 | 06:14 PM

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hardRESET

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Why yes, it is that big..

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That would be good...

raptor131, Thank you for the gesture that would really be amazing. I would buy the ScanGauge II and install that to help but can't find it in any of the standard autoparts store here. I might have a mechanic from the Ford dealer that would come by after hours. I was trying to get him here today but he said he can't make it until tomorrow at noonish. I may have to leave work early to meet with him.

Dec 19, 2011 | 08:02 PM

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BLADE35

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autozone has the scangauge

or you can order one from here
www.scangauge.com

No matter what happens its good to have then you know whats going on and can keep the mechanics under control if you dont know a Honest one

Dec 19, 2011 | 09:06 PM

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Toreador_Diesel

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Spoke with hardRESET earlier today:

-He has a 2005 motor
-Unplugged the ICP and it sounded better cranking and even fired, but still no joy
-Unplugged the EBPS, nothing
-Unplugged EGR, nothing
-He didn't have a voltmeter so he couldn't test the FICM

Dec 19, 2011 | 10:20 PM

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zhilton

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Sorry I stopped posting this morning...had to get to work. Like Benny posted, AutoZone should have a ScanGauge II in the store that will read codes. Beyond that, I'm not 100% sure what all it will do; I use an AE for all my troubleshooting.

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...has the STC fitting been updated on your truck, it is a known issue with the 2005 MY to cause no start issues

As much time as I've spent on this forum...you'd think I would have suggested that pretty quick.

Guess I need to deduct 1000 posts off my FTE profile for missing something that simple. Though since he's having a cold start issue...I don't think it's the STC; unless it was a complete failure. But that's very rare without some kind of warm/hot starting issues first.