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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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I dont think the guy knows anything, he probably just put up what he thought its worth. I'll cite some things and email him.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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I appreciate it alot. Please let me know, by pm or I can give you my number. Thx again.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Ya, it seems like these are kinda popular right now. I really don't want to pay more then $75.
If you can get the one that is in the YouTube video that John posted for $100 then that would be a nice buy. That one has the PTO Control button which seems like something that you don't need. However, you could use it for something else. It basically provides 12v power to a wire that you can use to power anything you want, such as back up flood lights, strobes, air pump...whatever you want.

Also, that model has an input that will work for REMOTE IDLE control. This means you can place a 5-10 ohm potentiometer in the engine compartment or anywhere and you can control the idle remotely. This would be useful for engine diagnostics or operating a power inverter in the bed. You can also get a VREF signal out of that module as well (however I am not sure how useful that would be...)
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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I dont think the guy knows anything, he probably just put up what he thought its worth. I'll cite some things and email him.
Reps to John for finding a nice unit and trying to help Seth get a great deal.

The Brotherhood strikes again!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Reps to John for finding a nice unit and trying to help Seth get a great deal.

The Brotherhood strikes again!
Agreed 100%. Thank you for all that Continully followed up and researched the topic. Reps are on the way.

Hopefully we can strike a good deal.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks for all the hard work guys. It seems that a few lucky ones will be able to benifit from this but not all. Again many thanks to the guys that found the answers. Have a Merry Christmas Yall
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Thanks for all the hard work guys. It seems that a few lucky ones will be able to benifit from this but not all. Again many thanks to the guys that found the answers. Have a Merry Christmas Yall
Yeah, I think you are right. I suspect the dealer can reflash the PCM to activate that feature for instances where a PTO trans is installed into a vehicle that did not come with one originally. Also, any Cab and Chassis truck with an automatic should also work since I think most if not all of them come with PTO transmissions. I suppose anyone using a PCM from a cab and chassis truck would also be able to get this to work. Lots of E series came with PTO trans so those owners should be in luck.

And of course most all custom tuners offer a fast idle choice as one of the tunes.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Yeah, I think you are right. I suspect the dealer can reflash the PCM to activate that feature for instances where a PTO trans is installed into a vehicle that did not come with one originally. Also, any Cab and Chassis truck with an automatic should also work since I think most if not all of them come with PTO transmissions. I suppose anyone using a PCM from a cab and chassis truck would also be able to get this to work. Lots of E series came with PTO trans so those owners should be in luck.

And of course most all custom tuners offer a fast idle choice as one of the tunes.
I wonder how the ford aux idle controller handles the EBV.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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I know. I want a dp tuner with the high idle option but this is a little cheaper and will cost me less diesel from me putting my foot in it all the time.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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It would be nice to be able to raise the idle by using the cruise controls like alot of larger trucks.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Seems like it would be much easier to just include the programming in all vehicles just to simplify the manufacturing process. The wires are already there and labeled so including the programming in the PCM calibration would be the final step that costs Ford exactly $0.00.

I guess the manual trans guys are out of luck as well....bummer.
I think it is all there,but if the pcm don't see a pto gear in the trans it ignores it. Why they would do it that way makes no sense. On the bright side, if you swap in a pto 4r100 it should work.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by VQ2Fast4U
It would be nice to be able to raise the idle by using the cruise controls like alot of larger trucks.
First thing I tried with my 7.3.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rose Clifford
I wonder how the ford aux idle controller handles the EBV.
Interesting question. I don't know the answer but I haven't ever tried to use my AIC while the EBV was closed for warm up. If I get the opportunity, I will connect my AE and see what happens.

The way the AIC module works is that it joins the vehicle network via something that Ford calls Standard Corporate Protocol. Interesting enough, these Power Strokes were among the very first vehicles on the road that utilized module to module communication. Actually kinda groundbreaking when you think about it.

The four wire connector has a power, a ground and then two twisted pair network type wires for SCP bus positive and negative. The AIC module joins the network and communicates with the PCM to request a certain idle speed and the PCM chooses to comply or not to comply. The PCM looks to see if the parking brake is set and the transmission is in park (if automatic trans) and then ups the idle to the speed desired by the AIC. I suppose it's up to the PCM to determine if it wants to close the EBV or not. I bet it watches the exhaust back pressure sensor and opens the valve if the pressure gets above a certain range. (just guessing though...)
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Well sounds like the guy isn't going to deal on the module. If anybody else sees one please let me know.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Guy doesn't want to go any less then $150. I feel that is a little high. Am I right?
 
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