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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Exhaust manifold question

I'm ready to bolt on my new ceramic coated exhaust manifolds onto the block and noticed the block surface doesn't have a perfectly smooth machined surface like my manifolds.

Is that something to be concerned about? I obviously am thinking about potential exhaust leak issues between these two surfaces.

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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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The block is machined from the factory. Make sure its nice and clean. If you are unsure, there is a gasket available if need be.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by duck fan
The block is machined from the factory. Make sure its nice and clean. If you are unsure, there is a gasket available if need be.
I thought these exhaust manifolds were mounted without a gasket. Do many people use a gasket there on these engines? If so, why wouldn't Ford put them on there in the first place?
 
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They are typically mounted with out gaskets. I am not running them but they are available. Your block should be machined smooth and flat. In the event that its not for some reason, then a gasket would be in order.
 
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They are typically mounted with out gaskets. I am not running them but they are available. Your block should be machined smooth and flat. In the event that its not for some reason, then a gasket would be in order.

What brand do you recommend and where can I get them?
 
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Ford and International: Ford exhaust manifold gaskets F4TZ-9448-A or International 1814219C1
 
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by duck fan
Ford and International: Ford exhaust manifold gaskets F4TZ-9448-A or International 1814219C1

I'm assuming that the Ford and international parts are identical, just being offered through 2 different sources?

I'm just curious why these gaskets weren't part of the original design? Does the heat these engines produce cause problems with a gasket material over time?

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If I was you I would just clean up the block surface as good as possible and bolt em up. If your manifolds are true they will seal up fine. If they dont you have the option of getting the manifolds machined or using the gasket. The gasket in the main is not needed its just a more convenient option. I used it on mine. My thinking was while Im there I might as well wack one on. It turned out to be a PITA. For some un known reason the gasket kept creeping.



Only on the passenger side. So I took it off, straightened it out and put it back on with 25lbs more torque on the bolts. It did it again so I have taken it off . So far no leaks so I dont think it was necessary. Im not saying that this will happen with all gaskets its something to consider.
 
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Originally Posted by ChunderDownUnder
If I was you I would just clean up the block surface as good as possible and bolt em up. If your manifolds are true they will seal up fine. If they dont you have the option of getting the manifolds machined or using the gasket. The gasket in the main is not needed its just a more convenient option. I used it on mine. My thinking was while Im there I might as well wack one on. It turned out to be a PITA. For some un known reason the gasket kept creeping.



Only on the passenger side. So I took it off, straightened it out and put it back on with 25lbs more torque on the bolts. It did it again so I have taken it off . So far no leaks so I dont think it was necessary. Im not saying that this will happen with all gaskets its something to consider.
Was your block surface and exhaust manifold surface machined perfectly smooth? My manifold is machined perfectly smooth while my block surface looked to be machined at one point, but now sure is imperfect with grooves and rough in areas. It is perfectly clean though.
 
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Nothing stood out when I took them off so I had no machining done. Cleaned up the block and ran a straight edge over the manifold which look OK. Like I said I threw the gaskets on just for the heck of it. The drivers side is fine it was just the passenger side that did it. Most probably work OK for you. Just helping out so you can make an informed decision. Done about 100miles since bolting it back on without the gasket and there is no leaks.
 
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