ive got a friend whose best friend has a 2003 7.3 psd cc lb 4x4. he got a chip from some place in the west(he wont say from who) and he doesnt say what hp rating we think 100hp. he was hot rodding it for the frist week and guess what? he cracked the block with 9000 miles!!!!! the dealer told him that he has never seen one crack at this low miles. he was told by the tech that he confided in that even with the chip out they are going to tear the motor apart and they will find a hot cylinder and no that he was at fault and not cover it. they were to start the teardown this week. can you say loser?! he chipped it and ran it with no gauges like a moron. we think it was a big chip too.

 

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Man talk about making a fool of yourself. People need to think about what they are doing. A boost and pyro gauge would have cost him ALOT less than a new motor. Usually when you get that kind of chip you NEED an EXHAUST cause the egt's get really high if you don't. Me the first thing would be gauges and exhaust first then the chip. I bet he will feel like 2" tall when they tell him they won't cover it!!

 

Did the chip company supply him with basic facts about that extreme of a tune?

I never recommend 90+ HP chips and when someone wants one I insist they sign a release detailing the precautions needed and the dangers of using such a tune. Plus, the following is included with all our extremes:

"For All Extreme (~90+ HP) Diablo Sport Chip Tuning a free flowing exhaust system with larger than stock downpipe and EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) gauge are mandatory and transmission shift valve upgrading is recommended. This tune is not suitable for towing. It is the buyer's responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is not driven with exhaust temperatures above factory rated EGT safe limits. In no case shall Ford Truck Enthusiasts, Inc. be held liable for the buyer exceeding these limits and for incidental, special or consequential damages caused by exceeding these limits. This program was developed for racing applications only and is not intended to be used on the street or for daily driving. This program pushes the functional limits of both the vehicle and the power train."

This kind of crap is what gives chips a bad name: irresponsible dealers and those who treat a street truck like a race truck without equiping it like a race truck.

 

Well, that's the thing, Ken. Some folks will do everything they can to destroy a vehicle, chipped or not. The majority of people running big chips or whatever responsibly have never harmed their trucks.

That's what kind of gripes me about warranty claims at the dealers- If they see evidence of a chip, gauges or other mods, there's an expectation they'll toast your warranty, no matter how responsible you are. But someone can whip and abuse a stone-stock truck and usually get away with it. Modded or not, someone that accellerates flat-out from every stop light, does brake-torque burn outs or puts their foot in it every chance they can is going to have a shorter-lived truck.

The fact that you or anyone else can sell chips and the vast majority of people haven't complained or blown anything up is more proof that Ford's attitude is out of line.

It's the driver, not the mods.

Some common sense needs to prevail.

 

You're right, it is the driver. I just get a little irked because its the abusers who cause the warranty headaches you describe and its shame.

Unfortunately though there are some chip programming companies who'll sell anybody a 125HP chip and will tell them its "okay" and never mention exhausts, egts, etc. The minority makes it harder on the rest (same applies to drivers as you said).

 

Its once again the old dummy excuse: I agree with Ken an Parrot. Now the guy will run down the street talking about what a piece of crap the Ford was. Some people will not accept responsibility for themselves. I do hope the dealer sticks it up his butt, he deserves it.
Ken your also right about the after market people. I guess that it takes all kinds. Its just unfortunate that some of them even drive Ford Trucks: Go Figure

Keep up the good advice. I have never seen bad advice in here without somebody setting the record straight. Thanks again guys:

 

O.K. guys since you are so smart maybe you can help me out. I put a chip over 100 hp in my truck with 5" exh. and everything else. Ran fine for about 5k never going over 600 egt. Then one day she starts running up to nine. Checked my turbo gauge and she is still turning out 25lbs and running at about 6. Problem comes when the truck drops into fourth, the turbo drops to about 5-7 lbs and the egts go up to 9. Checked for vacuum problems. Nothing. Checked for leaks at critical points. Nothing. Dealer who sells the chip says this temp is no problem but the fact that it ran cool and then starting running hot makes them wonder. I am getting really ******. Do I have an intake blockage or something? What the **** is wrong? Animal?

 

My first question would be what kind of chip did you put in? Next. does lyour system have a reader. if so what kind of codes are you getting? Just guessing, sounds like a vacume leak or excessive fuel dumping. What do you think guys?

 

Check the connections to the intercooler and for any leaks in the line to your boost gauge. Both of these can cause the problems you've described.

 

Tried all the things you have said. Had the engine steam cleaned, towed it home,ran it for two hours looking for leaks and nothing. Now the interesting part is that this happens even if I take the chip out.

 

You're getting overfueling and the chip isn't going to change its program and suddenly cause an issue. That's why I said to check those things out, either one can cause the problem.

 

Thanks, I will keep trying.