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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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For that specific oil yes but if you read the oils below at the botom it actually made it worst...

They used a baseline diesel that was not treated yet.

Im wondering where I get that FPPF stuff at
Actually 2 stroke oil is designed to lubricate while being burned. Regular oil wasn't and it isn't ashless. If you look closely biodiesel is the best hands down. But for the money the 2 stroke is the best. I'm not even sure where to get b20 near salt lake anymore. And it plugs filters faster and other issues.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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I think Tcw3 is good for the pump and injectors. Engine oil on the other side is very important for everything that is lubricated with oil. I would say synthetic oil would be better than regular oil in these engine. Today's engine are so sopheticated with turbo, injectors and electronic sensors.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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I think Tcw3 is good for the pump and injectors. Engine oil on the other side is very important for everything that is lubricated with oil. I would say synthetic oil would be better than regular oil in these engine. Today's engine are so sopheticated with turbo, injectors and electronic sensors.

The 2 stroke oil is no benefit for our 6.0 fuel pumps which are very low pressure compared to the common rail pumps.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SixGunCaliforniaKid
For that specific oil yes but if you read the oils below at the botom it actually made it worst...

They used a baseline diesel that was not treated yet.

Im wondering where I get that FPPF stuff at
I always used FPPF for anti gel in my semi's years ago.

But, I don't use it now.

I'm trying to remember which is which, but it has to do with it being either a demulsifier, or emulsifier.

FPPF, as I was told, is wrong for our engines. Thus, I don't use it.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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I could hardly finish this thread...the amount of opinions stated as fact are troubling.

Good Luck weeding through them and finding truth!

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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This is a great thread. Forget adding 2-stroke oil! That will never save your truck for eternity! I have become worried that starting and running my 6.0 may harm it so I have purchased another truck and now I tow my 6.0 truck around behind the other truck so I can preserve that gem forever and ever. I may spend a lot of extra money for no reason, but I really want to save my 6.0 because it is so rare and special. -Mike
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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LOL.....sarcasm is rare and special also!
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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Guys when I started this thread I had no idea of the various ideas and views regarding my question. I can only say that I am truly amazed at the amount of information this forum brings. Thanks for all the ideas and discussion. It is truly great.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IHbase
This is a great thread. Forget adding 2-stroke oil! That will never save your truck for eternity! I have become worried that starting and running my 6.0 may harm it so I have purchased another truck and now I tow my 6.0 truck around behind the other truck so I can preserve that gem forever and ever. I may spend a lot of extra money for no reason, but I really want to save my 6.0 because it is so rare and special. -Mike



Originally Posted by Unrealo4
Actually 2 stroke oil is designed to lubricate while being burned. Regular oil wasn't and it isn't ashless. If you look closely biodiesel is the best hands down. But for the money the 2 stroke is the best. I'm not even sure where to get b20 near salt lake anymore. And it plugs filters faster and other issues.
Yeah, unless you cook the stuff and carry it to fuel up those of us that dont have shiners blood cant do the 2% mix. for myself atleast. but 2 stroke just gives "lubricity" check out this article that says youl gain only 1 MPG using the 2 stroke, yes it lubricates more but... its not an all around additive:
Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

so point is will the two stroke help? yes it does, its the consumers (or OP) descision as to which route he/she takes.... just dont use the following (IMHO from the results):

14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
Gas or diesel
HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
427:1 ratio
7.8 oz/tank
$2.65/tank

15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.67/tank

16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.12/tank

17)Marvel Mystery Oil
Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and
newer systems)
HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
320:1 ratio
10.4 oz/tank
$3.22/tank

18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.38/tank
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
I always used FPPF for anti gel in my semi's years ago.

But, I don't use it now.

I'm trying to remember which is which, but it has to do with it being either a demulsifier, or emulsifier.

FPPF, as I was told, is wrong for our engines. Thus, I don't use it.
Emulsifier. Allows water to mix with a substance it won't normally mix with. In this case, diesel fuel. The most commonly used emulsifier in fuel additives is alcohol. An emulsifier will allow water to pass through the water separator and go through the injectors. Bad for diesel engines.

Demulsifier. Helps prevent water and fuel from mixing. Helps the water separator function properly. Good for diesel engines.

I looked at the FPPF web page briefly. One product said it contained no alcohols. There wasn't much indication of whether they contain emulsifiers or demulsifiers, so I can't comment much on it.
 
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