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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dracoin9
have had my 06..6.0 for about 8 months. while this forum is titled PSD.. this truck is giving me a case of PTSD! first was the intercooler, then EGR, then alternator, then some type of sensor, then turbo, then turbo hoses. past weekend, it just flat turned itself off at a stop sign and hasn't run since, it will crank strong, but not start. each of these was a seperate incident and three required towing. the kicker...I was pulling a 40' rv at the time! which means two tows each time. 74k miles, in spite of the list above, very well maintenanced! fresh oil all the time, coolant good stuff, diesel treatment, clean, no leaks. simply doing all I can to treat it right. any ideas on what died this time?
First off, welcome to FTE. How did you figure out your inter-cooler was bad? And do you remember which sensor you had to replace? The turbo, CAC boots and inter-cooler are pretty tightly related...so I question all three different ones going at separate times. The boots do wear out (oil vapor from the CCV doesn't help) and the unison ring & vanes have been known to stick if the truck isn't worked. But not many guys have had to replace an inter-cooler (except those of us that have had heavy front end damage). Is it safe to assume your using OEM spec'd filters (Ford, Navistar or Racor brand). The dead as a hammer could be a couple of things. You could pick up a ScanGauge II from AutoZone/Amazon and it will allow you to read codes; regardless if the CEL is lite or not. If you really want to spin your own wrenches and diagnosis any problem the truck might have...you really should pick up an AutoEnginuty with the Ford Enhanced Bundle. The best price your going to find is Clay @ RiffRaff:

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There is allot of knowledge about the 6.0L in this forum. I'm pretty sure if it can happen to a 6.0L; someone has dealt with it in this forum.
Originally Posted by BPofMD
Your Dad's Chevy didn't require the EPA crap that's required in your either. Believe me, the Chev's of newer vintage have problems too....
And the choir said AMEN! They all have issues, thanks to our "friends" in the EPA.
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Hey BPofMD, I don't use any additives at all, I did a few times last year during the cooler weather, I used "Diesel Fuel Cetane Boost" to prevent gelling. Is there something else that I should be using?
As long as it doesn't contain alcohol, you should be ok. Just like oil, fuel additives are like the style & brand underwear...everyone has their opinion which is better/best. I've been running Diesel Kleen for 4 years...white in the winter (temps below 45F) and grey for all other times. About 6 months ago I started mixing Opti-Lube into see if (A) "oil up" the fuel and (B) to see if it would help with mileage. I've noticed a slight improvement...but I wouldn't say it's the cure all additive to fix all fuel problems/issues.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by grantpage
I wasn't actually implying that the egr delete made the truck take longer to warm up, I was just mistaken on why you can't let the trucks idle to long, I originally thought it was only b/c of the egr system, and that thread made me aware of the "wet stacking", so that was actually the reason for the high idle mod, which only takes about 30-45 mins to install, and this morning my truck was at operating temp in about 5 mins.
What EGR delete did you go with? An aftermarket or fabricate your own?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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I bought mine from a friend that works at Ford, I think he took it off of another 6.0L, it was just the straight pipe for the exhaust and the J pipe to reroute the coolant, pretty basic looking. I left the egr valve in place and plugged in, although it did have a block off for that also.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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well the results are in!

oil pump is shot. Only putting out 250 lbs while cranking to start. Curious thing was ...no warning, no codes, no nothing. just flat stopped!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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zhilton, thanks for the insights. as far as the intercooler, the FORD dealership mechanic said it was seeping/ leaking so they suggested changing it. the sensor was on the drivers side toward the front end of the motor. all the work has been done by FORD wrenches. the truck has never been wrecked .
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dracoin9
oil pump is shot. Only putting out 250 lbs while cranking to start. Curious thing was ...no warning, no codes, no nothing. just flat stopped!
It happens... Mine was putting out 7 PSI when it died (no codes either). A far cry from the 800 needed to start the truck.

You'll want to do the air test to verify it's the pump though. Could be something else leaking like you stand pipes or dummy plugs. If you need the procedure. let us know.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dracoin9
zhilton, thanks for the insights. as far as the intercooler, the FORD dealership mechanic said it was seeping/ leaking so they suggested changing it. the sensor was on the drivers side toward the front end of the motor. all the work has been done by FORD wrenches. the truck has never been wrecked .
No problem, I was just wondering if someone is throwing parts at the truck...or if those are real issues that were corrected/repaired. It has happened several times before with these engines is the only reason I asked. Sounds like EBT was the sensor they replaced.
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It happens... Mine was putting out 7 PSI when it died (no codes either). A far cry from the 800 needed to start the truck.
Sounds like the seal went, just like the lifters..$10 part shuts down a $10k engine
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by zhilton
Sounds like the seal went, just like the lifters..$10 part shuts down a $10k engine
$10 part inside a $700 pump... LOL
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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in my opinion, i tink it could be ur HPOP. most of the time tat i've seen, especially during testing, the 6.0 may sound like it's cranking strong, but in actuality, when u hook it up to a computer, u can see the volts dying as it's going along.

when work on the HPOP is done, better to do stc fittings, dummy plugs, etc.

might be ur ficm. hmmmm. back to work for me.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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NTD... add to the $10.00 part LABOR!

whew!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Hmmmm......I would suspect a $40 STC fitting vs. a $700 pump. Regardless the labor is still the same.
 
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