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1967-1970 ford help!!!

Hello everyone! I recently purchased a 1967 ford f250 for $2500. Its extremely solid and complete for a northeastern truck and its what ive wanted for years. The registration says 1970. The previous owner said he had problems and had another truck laying around and swapped tags. It has a 390, 4 spd, dana 60 rear,(C-30255), as says on the housing no other tags. It has 3" wide brake shoes. The front is a dana 44 6CF(35133). Has 2" wide brake shoes. Transfer reads Dana/spicer Model 24. I pretty much need wheel seals, bearings, hubs, and brakes. (Shoes, wheel cylinders, hardware kit, parking brake cables). The problem im having is it has a ball and socket type front axle and odd front end parts. Ive looked at many websites for parts. Lmc, rock auto, macs, ebay, etc.... All of the sites seem to have 4 different options of the parts I need and the last thing I want to do is play cat and mouse. I need help with getting these parts and getting my rig running! thanks
 
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Hello everyone! I recently purchased a 1967 Ford F250 for $2500. Its extremely solid and complete for a northeastern truck and its what ive wanted for years.

The registration says 1970. The previous owner said he had problems and had another truck laying around and swapped tags. It has a 390, 4 spd, dana 60 rear,(C-30255), as says on the housing no other tags.

It has 3" wide brake shoes. The front is a dana 44 6CF (35133). Has 2" wide brake shoes. Transfer reads Dana/spicer Model 24. I pretty much need wheel seals, bearings, hubs, and brakes. (Shoes, wheel cylinders, hardware kit, parking brake cables).

The problem im having is it has a ball and socket type front axle and odd front end parts. Ive looked at many websites for parts. Lmc, rock auto, macs, ebay, etc.

All of the sites seem to have 4 different options of the parts I need and the last thing I want to do is play cat and mouse. I need help with getting these parts and getting my rig running!
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When F250's and F350's have drum brakes front/rear, they are the same size brakes.

So, the brakes on your truck originally were 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear, same as 1953/65 F250, 1966/75 F250 4WD.

Some 1966/72 F250 2WD's also have 12 1/8" x 2" brakes, some have 12" x 2 1/2" brakes as it depends on the trucks GVW.

No F250 of any year came with 12" x 3" rear brakes. Only F350's came with this size brakes, also have Dana 70 rear axles (thru 1985).

So, it's possible your truck also has a Dana 70 swapped in.

The 390 isn't original, not introduced until 1968. Was never offered with 4WD. The only V8's offered with 4WD 1965/76 were the 352 (1965/67), 360 (1968/76).

You have what we call here on FTE a Frankenstein monster, a truck that has been cobbled together with parts from other trucks.

Swaps are a PITA! Because...peeps make changes, do not record what the parts come from...so when something breaks, either they or a subsequent owner are stuck as a fly on flypaper.

Brakes shoes will not be a problem finding. The standard equipment front axle on 1959/72 F250 4WD's is the Dana 44-6CF, which has a 3,000 lb. capacity.

If you are sure that's what it is, finding the correct parts for it shouldn't be a problem. I suggest going to NAPA, they should have everything, except...

The parking brake cables for 4WD's may not be reproduced.

What type of hubs does it have? Ford or Warn? Warn are so marked, Locking Ford hubs have a red ****. There are two different types of hubs, depends on the GVW of the front axle.

Since it's a 44-6CF, it's 3,000 lbs. capacity.
 
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Well thanks for that info. It most certainly seems like a frank. The rear brakes are positively 3" wide and it has big drums that are part of the hub until you knock out the studs. This looked odd because I've never seen such big.brakes on anything with a single wheel. How can you tell a Dana 60 from a 70? It says 60 on the housing and the number I listed was adjacent to the diff cover. The motor I'm not to worried about I have many Fe engines. Thanks!
 
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Well thanks for that info. It most certainly seems like a frank. The rear brakes are positively 3" wide and it has big drums that are part of the hub until you knock out the studs. This looked odd because I've never seen such big.brakes on anything with a single wheel. How can you tell a Dana 60 from a 70? It says 60 on the housing and the number I listed was adjacent to the diff cover.
Since the front brakes are 12 1/8 x 2, the rear brakes were the same size originally. A previous owner cobbled this truck up...installed F350 12 x 3 brakes. If the rear axle is marked 60, that's what it is.

To verify what year it is, look on the axle tubes, see if there's a 7 or 8 digit Dana ID number stamped on either side, similar to these examples: 603010-1, 603010-011.

The original Ford ID tag was under one of the bolts that retain the inspection cover to the housing. Many are missing today, because the clueless peeps that worked on them, didn't replace the tags when the covers were re-installed.
 
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Well its defiantly a Dana 60. I did some more tinkering today and my light switch and some wires are fried right into the harness. So if any ones got spares I'm interested in a purchase. Lol. Now, even tho it has f350 brakes but a Dana 60, can I buy the right setup and have it fit properly? I found the quad4x4 website and they seem to have everything.
 
 
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