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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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I bought their manual it is a good overview I wish it was more technical I have been compiling all the good info I have found out there or sent to me form about 6 different forums I offer mine for free just ask that any info that can be added send it to me
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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I'm always up for trading info. I've compiled a decent list of good threads with info for the 12v motors found in both 1st & 2nd gen. Dodges. deck60 - PM for email address if you'd like to do some swapping.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I originally started getting parts from Destroked (adapter plate, starter, flywheel spacer), but after a few unpleasant dealings with them I swithced to Diesel Conversion Specialists(Fordcummins). I bought the engine mounts, a/c manifold, tach ring, and radiator hose kit from them. The manual they gave me for free. I thought it had some useful info, but dont expect a perfect step by step. Each conversion is a little different, so it just depends on what you use. In hind sight I think if I were to do it again, I would use Dodge engine, trans, and t/case. I spent considerable time getting the custom clutch and adapter plate to work for my application. The adapter is not a bolt on and go. All that being said, I am extremely happy with the results! I have twice the fuel mileage and easily twice the power. Come spring I will have to take a trip with my toyhauler and let you know. I bet I dont even know its back there.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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Interesting. You would use the whole Dodge drivetrain? I guess you would save $$ on all the adapter plates.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I converted mine to a six speed manual with a manual shifted t/case. If I kept the auto I probably would have done an auto from a 6.0L or have the one you have beefed up. Ive heard the 5 speed auto from the 6.0L is strong enough without o/haul. Either way youll have to get the adapter and stand alone computer.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I agree

I used the whole dodge drive train in mine it seems to be a good fit I did use a 273 transfer case from a dodge had to change input shaft and put on a ford front output and have my drive-shaft shortned

of this process this is how I would do it

dodge engine 5.9 cummins
dodge transmission nv4500 I like manuals
np271-273 what ever came in your ford use it change input shaft and you would have to have you drive shaft done

this is the ultimate drive-line as far as I am concerned

Dennis
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by deck60
I used the whole dodge drive train in mine it seems to be a good fit I did use a 273 transfer case from a dodge had to change input shaft and put on a ford front output and have my drive-shaft shortned

of this process this is how I would do it

dodge engine 5.9 cummins
dodge transmission nv4500 I like manuals
np271-273 what ever came in your ford use it change input shaft and you would have to have you drive shaft done

this is the ultimate drive-line as far as I am concerned

Dennis
I'm doin a swap in my 2000 x with a v10 goin with the 12v what automatic transmission an transfercase do u recommend using?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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If you are going auto 47th and 241did t case. Will post more info when I get to my comp
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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47Rh smart phone's some times they are not so smart
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by deck60
If you are going auto 47th and 241did t case. Will post more info when I get to my comp
Ok thx. I've already got the 12v just buying all the other stuff up lol
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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ok now that I am on my computer

use the 47rh it is a manual shift
transfercase you can use the 241dhd you might be able to use a 271 273 with the right input shft check allstategear.com they might be able to hook you up

this is a write up from another that is using the 47rh

Basically, the trans test port is the pipe plug on the passenger side of the trans above the pan, halfway up the housing, it is just forward of where the body bolts to the tail housing. It would face your passenger door.

You need a 1/8" NPT extension , male on trans side and female on switch side.
Also need NAPA pt# 207616 Air cond. switch.

Thread extension and switch into trans port and run a switched positive from ignition or rocker switch in cab to one side of pressure switch. Run the other wire from remaining terminal of pressure switch to the driver side of the tranny to the OD control plug. If you have the plug still it is the red wire. If you have a A518 it should only have 2 wires in the plug, a 46rh has 3 and one is for locking the torque conv. This can also be run by using another pressure switch with a higher pressure rating.

The driver side plug is just behind the shift linkage above the pan.

The idea is that the test port puts out 1 psi per 1 mph with stock tire size. = OD engagement at a set speed. Flip the rocker switch in the cab and you shift out of OD.

I believe the switch part number I gave is for 45psi/mph.

these trannies can be built to hold you just have to remember never tow in od
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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what did the 241dhd come in?
I have a transfer case out of a 2000 or 2001 ram 3500. would that one be ok? its a 241 hd i think not sure....still learning all the dodge stuff lol
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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the hd and dhd are real close both came out of 2500 and 3500 trucks the dhd has a wider chain from what I have been told it will work fine if it goes out get a 273 ford or dodge case
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Hello

Originally Posted by LOP223
New here. Getting close to finishing my swap. I have a 2001 Excursion V10 XLT 4x4. It now has a Cummins 12 valve, Southbend dual disc clutch, ZF 6 speed, and manual t/case.
Installed exhaust today and took it for first test drive
WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Still have a few details to take care of. A/C hose, cruise control, interior(had to replace trans tunnel), etc.
I have a 2001 Fummins with a 12v. 1st generation. I have 4.10 gears with 37" tires and I get roughly 15 doing 60 mph. Although I have a 6" lift also. What gears do you have getting that good of mileage?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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Freakin sweet. This is the same swap I am planning on doing on my 04 250 when the 5.4 finally goes.

Any tips on webpages to start looking at. I have looked at fordcummins.com

Any other ones out there that I am missing that are worth taking the time to go through.

Nice Excursion man, it is set up perfect and should last you forever.
 
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