tuner issue
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tuner issue
gibson dual exhaust and shorty headers stage two intake afe none of the above is installed but was wondering if installing would be a bad idea if not having the tuner
someone told me the exhaust could be put in but dont do the intake
i have a lincoln mark lt 2006 5.4 triton v8
someone told me the exhaust could be put in but dont do the intake
i have a lincoln mark lt 2006 5.4 triton v8
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You're probably going to have an issue with running lean. You might need to look into a new MAF to account for the additional flow as well as the custom tunes.
Call Mike Butler @ 5 Star Tuning today. He'll walk you through the details. Great guy with outstanding service.
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Any tuner? NO
Some tuners? YES
But for the same amount of $$$ you can get custom tunes built from a reputable tuner that knows what the hell he's doing. But if you'd rather play with the settings and risk your truck...then go for it.
Some tuners? YES
But for the same amount of $$$ you can get custom tunes built from a reputable tuner that knows what the hell he's doing. But if you'd rather play with the settings and risk your truck...then go for it.
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Edge used to (they still might) have a disclaimer that stated (in so many words) "this device is meant for stock vehicles".
Like Chandler said, why take a chance? Why not get all the 'performance' you can out of your mods?
Like Chandler said, why take a chance? Why not get all the 'performance' you can out of your mods?
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Will and Edge or SCT tuner fix the lean fuel issue out of the box?
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LOL, any tuner has a very limited amount of adjustment so i would have little to no fear of hurting my truck by setting an out the box tuner to fit the way i drive and the fuel i use. the sct and the edge are good tuners, even out the box.
Will and Edge or SCT tuner fix the lean fuel issue out of the box?
Will and Edge or SCT tuner fix the lean fuel issue out of the box?
Custom tunes are written for your mods, your calibration code, and your objectives.
Canned tunes = Sears business suit (nice, but won't fit perfect)
Custom tunes = Custom tailored suit (will also make your wife/girlfriend's bust grow larger)
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thats what i thought to sct it reads your driving style but will it also be able to factor size of your tires to i heard that without the tuner you wont be at zero so you get a delay to the pedel
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i understand that, i use my edge for my trans mods more than the engine but if the late model years are aftermarket intake safe i would think edge would base the tune for that year truck to be safe.
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Please explain aftermarket intake safe.
Do you mean you won't hose your engine using a warmer-air-than-stock-under-the-hood-bling-intake with an 07+? Probably. But it's also a waste of money UNLESS you get custom tunes to add 5-10 hp at 4500 rpms.
This is a diesel, but as tight as Ford (and other manufacturers) are with warranties, it's something to think about.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-new-post.html
Do you mean you won't hose your engine using a warmer-air-than-stock-under-the-hood-bling-intake with an 07+? Probably. But it's also a waste of money UNLESS you get custom tunes to add 5-10 hp at 4500 rpms.
This is a diesel, but as tight as Ford (and other manufacturers) are with warranties, it's something to think about.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-new-post.html
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The issue was never a 'free-flowing intake' (sounds like Two Morons in a Garage advertising hype).
As I posted above, the issue was the altered intake tube geometry around the MAF.
The 04-05 (and some 06) had a lean factory calibration. When the MAF transfer function was altered, it put the engine into a dangerously lean condition (i.e. AFR > 14.7). Lean produces hp, but the combustion chamber temps also rise (burnt valves and pistons).
Once again, these intakes are a waste of money UNLESS you get custom tunes to add 5-10 hp at 4500 rpms.
As I posted above, the issue was the altered intake tube geometry around the MAF.
The 04-05 (and some 06) had a lean factory calibration. When the MAF transfer function was altered, it put the engine into a dangerously lean condition (i.e. AFR > 14.7). Lean produces hp, but the combustion chamber temps also rise (burnt valves and pistons).
Once again, these intakes are a waste of money UNLESS you get custom tunes to add 5-10 hp at 4500 rpms.
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you are not answering the question, if a tuner remaps the ecu does it map it to not have the lean factory calibration?
i am not even asking if its a good buy or a waste of money but have you dyno run a stock intake vs an aftermarket? (sounds like Two Morons retyping what they read online)
i am not even asking if its a good buy or a waste of money but have you dyno run a stock intake vs an aftermarket? (sounds like Two Morons retyping what they read online)
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You aren't understanding the issue.
A CUSTOM tune will account for the revised MAF transfer function (providing you tell the tune writer). A canned tune (Edge, HyperCrap, and Bully$**** will not.
No I have not run a dyno test because I have never wasted my money on an aftermarket intake - I've seen enough evidence (in the form of dyno sheets, actual test setups, qualifications on results, etc.) from the actual intake manufacturers to know that it's a waste of money. Of course this is also supported by almost every reputable custom tuner.
A CUSTOM tune will account for the revised MAF transfer function (providing you tell the tune writer). A canned tune (Edge, HyperCrap, and Bully$**** will not.
No I have not run a dyno test because I have never wasted my money on an aftermarket intake - I've seen enough evidence (in the form of dyno sheets, actual test setups, qualifications on results, etc.) from the actual intake manufacturers to know that it's a waste of money. Of course this is also supported by almost every reputable custom tuner.
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the way i looked at it was if it is safe to run an intake on the 07-08 (even if it makes no change) they would base the canned tune on that year setup due to it was a revised tune from ford for the same drive train package. they dont ask what exact year you truck is.
the revised maf transfer function is in the 07-08 oem tune right or are you saying it is a component on the 07-08 that makes it safe over the 04-05?
the revised maf transfer function is in the 07-08 oem tune right or are you saying it is a component on the 07-08 that makes it safe over the 04-05?