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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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Two 5-speed questions

Hi,

I have a friend who says in '88 or '89 there was an optional 5-speed available other than the ZF in the F250. He says it was a cast iron case, external slave, tranny made by New Process, maybe available only with the plow option. I can't find any reference to it. Does anyone know if this tranny really existed (I guess my friend might have had a 4-speed)?

Also, are all the ZF trannys internal-slave-cylinder rigs?

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Roy,
All the ZF's I have seen are internal slave but I've only worked on 5-6 of them...

That being said i've never heard of NP making a HD 5spd for the 8th gen f250s/f350s but i could be wrong about that... Just never seen one or heard of anyone on here mentioning one... I'm sure other senior users will jump in but I believe 87 was one of the last years for a 4spd before all 250/350 trucks got 5spd zf's... I have heard some of the light duty f250's might have been mated with the M50D though...
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Thanks NSTU,

That is what I thought. We'll see if anyone else has seen that iron 5-speed.

Roy
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Owning an AAMCO in 15 yrs never saw any such trans, and I was the rebuilder for all standards that came into the shop. Phoenix is a "truck" driven area also. Did tons of M50's but no Np Trans.John
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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If NP made a solid cast 5spd option there would be alot more guys on here talking about swaping their M50D to a NP 5spd... Another fact that would lead me to believe it doesn't exhist.

AAMCO!!!!!!!

I'd think Dodge would be about 80% of your business then! LOL! LOL!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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i think your friend has been eating too many worms out of the bottom of tequila bottles.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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OK, thanks guys.

"Too many worms"...you can eat TOO MANY?"

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especially if you eat the bad ones too
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nstueve
If NP made a solid cast 5spd option there would be alot more guys on here talking about swaping their M50D to a NP 5spd... Another fact that would lead me to believe it doesn't exhist.

AAMCO!!!!!!!

I'd think Dodge would be about 80% of your business then! LOL! LOL!
,How did you know that??John
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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I have heard of a NP535 5 speed tranny. Mostly was a Dodge thing, not sure the gear ratios or if it had OD
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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are all the ZF trannys internal-slave-cylinder rigs?
Only the small block ZFs had an internal slave. The 460 and diesel versions used an external slave.

I don't know of any other 5-speeds available in these trucks.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Eddie, Thanks. I don't think the NP535 is the one...it shows up in the Dakota and must be lite-weight.

Eric, Thanks for the clarification on the slave cylinder.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nstueve
... I have heard some of the light duty f250's might have been mated with the M50D though...
This is true, my '90 F250 was the 'light duty' version which came w/ the Mazda 5 speed tranny. I purchased the truck from the original owner so I'm positive that it was the original drive train in the truck. I'm now setup w/ a ZF-5 trans which works so much better in the F250, especially w/ the 3.55 gears.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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My '89 F-250 is one of the light duty 3/4 tons with a 302 mated to a M5OD-R2...Original engine was just swapped for another 302, and the tranny is original as well.

A bit anemic for the truck, but it seems to work...
 
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EPNCSU2006
Only the small block ZFs had an internal slave. The 460 and diesel versions used an external slave.

I don't know of any other 5-speeds available in these trucks.
Double thanks... I'm not a BB or diesel guy so those are the areas I am usually wrong about... Dad might be getting a diesel though so hopefully that will change!

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I'm just that cool... LOL...
 
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