ats turbos
Butt-Head
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From: Reed Point, MT
That last post makes me question your "experience". I'm not trying to be an ***, but there is some TERRIBLE misinformation that some people here are going to carry with them and continue to regurgitate as fact for the next 10 years.
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From: Greater Austin, Texas
I've got an ATS on my truck but it was on there when I bought it, so I don't know much. It sure seems to make boost easier than my friend's stock Garrett, but that may or may not be due to the turbo itself.
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From: Bend, OR
turbonetics are great units. any ball bearing center section is gonna be better than a standard oil journal type, easier to rebuild, less damage when they pop, less waiting for the turbo to cool off, just an all round better unit.
those turbonetics' boost some of the most powerful engines made.
a .38r is just a regular ole' dry case turbo just like all the other turbo's on the road-with a bit more low end efficiently(boost) meaning the exhaust case is tighter around the impeller, which in turn if spun too high in some applications can cause the exhaust to build up behind it: drive pressure...
sorry for rambling on
kurt
those turbonetics' boost some of the most powerful engines made.
a .38r is just a regular ole' dry case turbo just like all the other turbo's on the road-with a bit more low end efficiently(boost) meaning the exhaust case is tighter around the impeller, which in turn if spun too high in some applications can cause the exhaust to build up behind it: drive pressure...
sorry for rambling on
kurt
hum... You should stop while your only buried up to your neck.
Most on here know how many turbos I have run, tested, prototyped and such...
The TN being one of them...
Stop while you can still breath above the BS.
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From: Bend, OR
I very highly doubt you have one of the OLD school ATS BB turbos.
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From: Bend, OR
My belief of why the OP hasn't gotten an answer to his question is that nobody here wants to pony-up the money for the ATS system. The problem isn't the turbo, but the fact that to run one of these kits from ATS, you have to BUY THE KIT to make it fit. This drives the price way up since it's not a "drop-in" turbocharger. 90% of the posts on internet forums consist of people wanting to buy the cheapest thing that they can find and unfortunately, while the ATS kit looks like it would be a very nice setup (not only physically, but on paper as well), it is financially out of reach for the cheap-*** masses.
1. Cost... Its stupid expensive for what your getting... 50% more then a H2e kit and even more then the over priced Turbonetics kit.
2. ATS... nothing more to say then ATS... The purple palace...
Its not some special mount kit, just a standard T-4 mount...
Butt-Head
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From: Reed Point, MT
It's different than what everyone else is doing as the "angle of entry" is different on the turbine side.
Besides, if you just buy a T-4 mount turbo you will HAVE to fabricate or buy a pre-made mount anyway. The cost aspect of it (that I mentioned earlier that hinders the sale) IS the main factor here. Any standard-rotation turbocharger that is fitted to the 7.3L will require a mount and up-pipe setup...kit form or self fabricated and that's a big pill to swallow for most folks.
Ford Aurora 3000 Turbo Kits - ATS Diesel
Besides, if you just buy a T-4 mount turbo you will HAVE to fabricate or buy a pre-made mount anyway. The cost aspect of it (that I mentioned earlier that hinders the sale) IS the main factor here. Any standard-rotation turbocharger that is fitted to the 7.3L will require a mount and up-pipe setup...kit form or self fabricated and that's a big pill to swallow for most folks.
Ford Aurora 3000 Turbo Kits - ATS Diesel
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From: Bend, OR
It's different than what everyone else is doing as the "angle of entry" is different on the turbine side.
Besides, if you just buy a T-4 mount turbo you will HAVE to fabricate or buy a pre-made mount anyway. The cost aspect of it (that I mentioned earlier that hinders the sale) IS the main factor here. Any standard-rotation turbocharger that is fitted to the 7.3L will require a mount and up-pipe setup...kit form or self fabricated and that's a big pill to swallow for most folks.
Ford Aurora 3000 Turbo Kits - ATS Diesel
Besides, if you just buy a T-4 mount turbo you will HAVE to fabricate or buy a pre-made mount anyway. The cost aspect of it (that I mentioned earlier that hinders the sale) IS the main factor here. Any standard-rotation turbocharger that is fitted to the 7.3L will require a mount and up-pipe setup...kit form or self fabricated and that's a big pill to swallow for most folks.
Ford Aurora 3000 Turbo Kits - ATS Diesel
Looks like the tip the bottom of the flange up a bit and turn it to the passanger side a bit. I could have done that when I built mine, but I didnt like the kink in the up pipe.
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From: west sacramento ca
im not questioning any ones expertise or experience on what they bought and where they put it. im just going on my own
20+yrs as an euro mech with a few manufacturers formal tech schools is all i've got. i sorta just know that a engine is a engine. dont mean to offend anyone sitting at their computer.
kurt
20+yrs as an euro mech with a few manufacturers formal tech schools is all i've got. i sorta just know that a engine is a engine. dont mean to offend anyone sitting at their computer.
kurt
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From: Reed Point, MT
Joe, I think you and me are going around and around for no reason.
You're talking about T3/T4 mounts and the availability of common turbochargers. My side of the argument has to do with cost and time only.
You're talking about T3/T4 mounts and the availability of common turbochargers. My side of the argument has to do with cost and time only.
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From: oriental NC.
im still listening and picking up some bits and pieces of info in-between the jabs . and being i got a early 99 i am probably going to change all the other stuff to so it is expensive either way i want something that is going to last another 300k and since it cost so much some gain in power is a plus. i was thinking a 38r until i got deeper knowledge now im still undecided i leaning towards a new ac inj or a new ac with a bigger nozzle . thanks guys 
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From: Bend, OR
im not questioning any ones expertise or experience on what they bought and where they put it. im just going on my own
20+yrs as an euro mech with a few manufacturers formal tech schools is all i've got. i sorta just know that a engine is a engine. dont mean to offend anyone sitting at their computer.
kurt
20+yrs as an euro mech with a few manufacturers formal tech schools is all i've got. i sorta just know that a engine is a engine. dont mean to offend anyone sitting at their computer.
kurt
Kurt,
You should stop posting about things you know nothing about. I have run a few TN turbos, there is a reason they stopped building the drop in for the 7.3...
There mid frames are fine, even good... but there drop in had issues.
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From: Bend, OR
Understood...
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From: Greater Austin, Texas
You more then likely have an ATS compressor housing on a stock Garrett tp-38...
Hook it, I'll pull it.
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From: Grand Lake, La.
If you have a 38r, you will have a 4" inlet to the turbo, not the 3" that is stock.