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429 f-100 08-22-2011 06:28 AM

ats turbos
 
anyone running a ats turbo ?

73ferdf250highboy 08-22-2011 10:18 AM

i think my buddies dad is running an ats something or other, he has all kinds of stuff attached to that thing. the trans pan looks like a foot locker attached to the bottom of the rig. the drivers seat is like a helicopters' cockpit with gauges all over the place...

and it is FAST :f350 crew long bed on 37" and a 6" lift.

he hauls anything from a 8sec. danger drag ranger, to his 5er or rock crawler

another buddy has the twins on his truck... (dodge dually)
he likes them.

kurt

PwerStroke99 08-22-2011 12:21 PM

I wouldnt waste your money on an ATS Turbo. If you want a good turbo, go with one of many different ones from Wide Open Performance.

ATS fine print Warranty will get you every time. The warranty is about as good as a taillight warranty. As soon as the taillights are out of sight, the warranty is dead. Look elsewhere

73ferdf250highboy 08-22-2011 01:06 PM

i don't know anything bout warranties. but turbos are turbos. they all look the same inside and out, and they all fail and rebuild the same.

they are all either garret, ai research, holset or kkk- the rest are just copies of them. turbo is a turbo. thats coming from a guy who rebuilt them for 20yrs on anything from 4cyl. concrete flat saws to compound turbos on logging trucks!

the only ones to really get excited about are the wet case twin scroll ceramic ball bearing jobbers.

my .02

kurt

cj45lc 08-22-2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by PwerStroke99 (Post 10724673)
I wouldnt waste your money on an ATS Turbo. If you want a good turbo, go with one of many different ones from Wide Open Performance.

ATS fine print Warranty will get you every time. The warranty is about as good as a taillight warranty. As soon as the taillights are out of sight, the warranty is dead. Look elsewhere

Anybody ever tell you you have a way with words....lmao

JMO but I would not buy a pair of socks let alone a turbo
Their reputation precedes them

rat49f6 08-22-2011 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by 73ferdf250highboy (Post 10724832)
i don't know anything bout warranties. but turbos are turbos. they all look the same inside and out, and they all fail and rebuild the same.

they are all either garret, ai research, holset or kkk- the rest are just copies of them. turbo is a turbo. thats coming from a guy who rebuilt them for 20yrs on anything from 4cyl. concrete flat saws to compound turbos on logging trucks!

the only ones to really get excited about are the wet case twin scroll ceramic ball bearing jobbers.

my .02

kurt



im going to have to disagree with a few points you have made

#1 not all turbos are the same they may look similar but simple measurements will give you a long list a differences

#2 WOP turbos and Garrett gtp38r's are built solely for 7.3 engine
that is a big advantage over a turbo built for a Caterpillar 988 wheel loader

73ferdf250highboy 08-22-2011 09:36 PM

all a turbo does is move air. the maps and case a/r's are just numbers to show where its adiabatic efficiency is in relation to its exhaust case. what brands are better is semantics. ie: the reason why you can have a t3 super 60 with the same a/r #'s as a t40b yet the size difference is...you can tell trust me. haha

all im saying is there are only a handful of turbo manufactures out there, they are all just built to the customers design. just cause it says ats on the housing doesnt mean it was made at an ats factory.

i guarantee ats isnt tooling out inconel exhaust wheels themselves...um..yeah

of course all turbos are different, thats why i cant seem to put one on my car on my truck. damn bolts dont match up! haha

kurt

CSIPSD 08-22-2011 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by rat49f6 (Post 10726034)
im going to have to disagree with a few points you have made

#1 not all turbos are the same they may look similar but simple measurements will give you a long list a differences

#2 WOP turbos and Garrett gtp38r's are built solely for 7.3 engine
that is a big advantage over a turbo built for a Caterpillar 988 wheel loader

Incorrect...

They are modified BW or SW or such turbos...

They are modified to fit the 7.3 map, but they are not built solely for the 7.3...

rat49f6 08-23-2011 05:46 AM

thats good to know joe thanks for the info

miller_feed 08-23-2011 08:32 AM

Well, I got to tell you that my turbo is very shinny compared to others I've seen. :-X04

429 f-100 08-23-2011 11:25 AM

doesn't seem as though many have the ats turbo thanks for your responses. checking all options before laying down cash:D

429 f-100 08-23-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by miller_feed (Post 10727896)
Well, I got to tell you that my turbo is very shinny compared to others I've seen. :-X04

rick what is tn-bb ?

miller_feed 08-23-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by 429 f-100 (Post 10728595)
rick what is tn-bb ?


It's a Turbonetics Ball Bearing Turbo. Garrett had some kind of problem with something and all their turbos were on back order when I got my TN turbo. TN quit making this turbo when a few people went around talking bad about the TN turbo on some of the forums. From what I understand, TN is the largest supplier of turbos in the world so they didn't need to build a turbo just for the 7.3 crowd.

I like the heck out of this turbo, spools quicker then the 38r. IMO. I can peg the needle on my 40 # boost gauge. :-X22

There are quite a few people on here with the TN turbo.

cleatus12r 08-23-2011 12:24 PM

My belief of why the OP hasn't gotten an answer to his question is that nobody here wants to pony-up the money for the ATS system. The problem isn't the turbo, but the fact that to run one of these kits from ATS, you have to BUY THE KIT to make it fit. This drives the price way up since it's not a "drop-in" turbocharger. 90% of the posts on internet forums consist of people wanting to buy the cheapest thing that they can find and unfortunately, while the ATS kit looks like it would be a very nice setup (not only physically, but on paper as well), it is financially out of reach for the cheap-ass masses.

73ferdf250highboy 08-23-2011 12:25 PM

turbonetics are great units. any ball bearing center section is gonna be better than a standard oil journal type, easier to rebuild, less damage when they pop, less waiting for the turbo to cool off, just an all round better unit.

those turbonetics' boost some of the most powerful engines made.

a .38r is just a regular ole' dry case turbo just like all the other turbo's on the road-with a bit more low end efficiently(boost) meaning the exhaust case is tighter around the impeller, which in turn if spun too high in some applications can cause the exhaust to build up behind it: drive pressure...:-blah

sorry for rambling on

kurt


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