Non hubcentric wheel balancing issues
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Non hubcentric wheel balancing issues
Hello Folks,
Did a lot of searching for hubcentric wheels vs. lugcentric but didnt find any specific problems with lugcentric.
Does anyone with LUG centric wheels have balancing issues or are they fine to balance?
I want KMC XD Addicts 17x9 with 5.71 backspacing and they are lugcentric- just want to know if they will balance ok. I dont tow so not worried about the weight on the lugs but I want to make sure they are smooth.
Please chime in if you have lugcentric wheels and they balanced fine. Thanks!
Also I have a 2008 f250, so please let me know if you got any rubbing with such a positive offset rim. THanks in advance.
Did a lot of searching for hubcentric wheels vs. lugcentric but didnt find any specific problems with lugcentric.
Does anyone with LUG centric wheels have balancing issues or are they fine to balance?
I want KMC XD Addicts 17x9 with 5.71 backspacing and they are lugcentric- just want to know if they will balance ok. I dont tow so not worried about the weight on the lugs but I want to make sure they are smooth.
Please chime in if you have lugcentric wheels and they balanced fine. Thanks!
Also I have a 2008 f250, so please let me know if you got any rubbing with such a positive offset rim. THanks in advance.
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I had a set once. The tire/wheel balanced fine on the rack, but I always had a slight vibration that went away with the stock wheels back on. It wasn't the entire reason I ditched the setup , but it was always a nagging issue in my mind. I also trashed several of the front studs around that time, and it's bothered me that maybe the wheels being lug centric did make a lug jump a thread or bend a stud. I looked into hub rings to fill the gab, but after talking with a few machinsts I decided against it. The most reliable guy I talked to said that to really work with my wheel a ring would have to be turned out as part of a spacer that was at least 4mm thick. Factory 18s were my solution, the guy who bought my wheels has put over 30k on them, I ran into him at the mall and we were talking about the poor tread life of the tires I sold him..
I don't recall the exact backspacing, but mine were 17x9s and set pretty far out, I backsided the driver's fender liner with 35x12.50s and a 2" lift, no trac bar adjustment. I have smaller front wheel weels though.
I don't recall the exact backspacing, but mine were 17x9s and set pretty far out, I backsided the driver's fender liner with 35x12.50s and a 2" lift, no trac bar adjustment. I have smaller front wheel weels though.
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from what I understand hubcentric is the only thing you want to use on a superduty. Hubcentric places a good portion of the load on the hub, Lugcentric places ALL the load on the lugs.
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I know this guy talks out his third point of contact pretty often but here is one video he did that I agree with
Bill
that look on his face is priceless
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i agree with his logic, thats the only reason i wont put a lift on my 04 F-350. No aftermarket hubcentric wheels, i care to much for my two kids to have them in my truck and have a wheel fly off from broken or loose lug nuts. And yes my buddy works at ajunk yard and he sees this happen weekly
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Balancing the wheel and tire combination has nothing to do with the wheel being hub-centric or lug-centric. The wheel/tire combination balances the same either way.
The difference comes when putting the wheels on your vehicle. A lug-centric wheel needs conical lug nuts to center properly. A hub-centric wheel uses standard lug nuts because the hub centers the wheel.
You will likely get some vibration issues is you use standard lug nuts with a lug-centric wheel, but that isn't the tire/wheel balance. It is because the wheel is not centered.
The difference comes when putting the wheels on your vehicle. A lug-centric wheel needs conical lug nuts to center properly. A hub-centric wheel uses standard lug nuts because the hub centers the wheel.
You will likely get some vibration issues is you use standard lug nuts with a lug-centric wheel, but that isn't the tire/wheel balance. It is because the wheel is not centered.
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If a lug-centric wheel is installed with the lugs torqued properly, you won't ever have a problem. The broken studs and lugs coming off happens when some gorilla over-tightens them or tightens them out of sequence and it puts extra strain on the studs.
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The stock lug nuts for hub centric wheel are flat. For the lug centric wheel you have to use the conical ones. If you don't, no amount of proper torquing is going to get the wheel on right.
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You do have to use the right lug nuts. That should go without saying, but you know how people can be these days.
The stock lug nuts for hub centric wheel are flat. For the lug centric wheel you have to use the conical ones. If you don't, no amount of proper torquing is going to get the wheel on right.
The stock lug nuts for hub centric wheel are flat. For the lug centric wheel you have to use the conical ones. If you don't, no amount of proper torquing is going to get the wheel on right.
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Thanks guys! So Its pretty safe to assume by the amount of people running XD rims on f250s that as long as I use the conical centering lugnuts they should balance fine correct?
So back to my original question- does anyone that have lug centric aftermarket wheels have any issues with vibration at speed?
So back to my original question- does anyone that have lug centric aftermarket wheels have any issues with vibration at speed?
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The shop in Lubbock that sold me my wheels is one of the "well respected" upfitters on the South Plains, and the guy told me to use stock flanged lug nuts intsead of acorn nuts with my wheels.
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