Hellwig Helper Springs ?
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Hellwig Helper Springs ?
Hi All,
I searched the forums and couldn't get quite the answer I'm looking for. I was wondering if any helper springs add to ride height? I saw that the supersprings don't do anything much to the suspension until they come under load, and there is a slapping issue on some trucks. So I'm looking at the hellwigs EZ-load and wondering if they provide any lift when installed. I recently leveled my truck with a 2" kit from daystar. It sits perfectly level, but I do haul items occasionally. So I need some rake back into it. I don't want to go the AAS route as it seems to make the rides a bit rougher according to other posters and forums, and average lift seems to be 2". I don't want to do air bag type suspensions since I do articulate the axle on my truck when taking a few dirt trails.
So I'm thinking of either getting some 3" blocks (which seems to add 1.75" on my truck, I only want 1" of lift) or possibly maybe the hellwig helper springs if they do just add that "Hint" of lift. Anybody with experience with their product?
Thanks in advance
I searched the forums and couldn't get quite the answer I'm looking for. I was wondering if any helper springs add to ride height? I saw that the supersprings don't do anything much to the suspension until they come under load, and there is a slapping issue on some trucks. So I'm looking at the hellwigs EZ-load and wondering if they provide any lift when installed. I recently leveled my truck with a 2" kit from daystar. It sits perfectly level, but I do haul items occasionally. So I need some rake back into it. I don't want to go the AAS route as it seems to make the rides a bit rougher according to other posters and forums, and average lift seems to be 2". I don't want to do air bag type suspensions since I do articulate the axle on my truck when taking a few dirt trails.
So I'm thinking of either getting some 3" blocks (which seems to add 1.75" on my truck, I only want 1" of lift) or possibly maybe the hellwig helper springs if they do just add that "Hint" of lift. Anybody with experience with their product?
Thanks in advance
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They will add height, depending on how much you tighten the U-bolts that are on the ends of the springs. You can adjust them to add 0-2" of height. I used the Hellwig helper springs on my '88 and they work pretty well.
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Spring Breakers???????
I put a set of SuperSprings on my truck, I have noticed a night and day difference in the sag and eliminated the sway problem the truck had, not the trailer. I don't have any noise issues, they added about 1" height but do tend to be a little bouncy when the truck isn't loaded
I put a set of SuperSprings on my truck, I have noticed a night and day difference in the sag and eliminated the sway problem the truck had, not the trailer. I don't have any noise issues, they added about 1" height but do tend to be a little bouncy when the truck isn't loaded
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Supersprings added somewhere between 3/4 to 1" of rear height empty for me. I'm the one that has a noise when going over speedbumps with them, but I'm beginning to believe it is my springs not the superspring - going to look into it this weekend. Cornering has improved, didn't notice any difference in ride - I added a level kit and bigger tires roughly the same time. Eliminated all my sag when pulling the boat.
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In all honesty, it seems like air bags would be perfect for your given application.
But this...
...is the first I've ever heard of not being able to articulate with air bags. They still do give and flex, albeit slightly less than if you were without them, but they should not limit suspension travel greatly.
But this...
...is the first I've ever heard of not being able to articulate with air bags. They still do give and flex, albeit slightly less than if you were without them, but they should not limit suspension travel greatly.
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In all honesty, it seems like air bags would be perfect for your given application.
But this...
...is the first I've ever heard of not being able to articulate with air bags. They still do give and flex, albeit slightly less than if you were without them, but they should not limit suspension travel greatly.
But this...
...is the first I've ever heard of not being able to articulate with air bags. They still do give and flex, albeit slightly less than if you were without them, but they should not limit suspension travel greatly.
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Springs are in and here is how it went.
a pic of one side with hardware.
and another
A few of the spring installed on truck.
Installation was very easy, simple bolt on application. Approx 1 hr for complete install, now that I know what I am doing 30 min. Directions say max adjustment is when spring ends get within 1/4 inch of truck springs. Mine are at approx 3/4 to 1 inch and I have about a 1/2 inch of lift. Test drive, truck feels much sturdier yet does not ride rough at all. Also I noticed that it now feels like you are putting much more power to the ground, tires bite (hook up) now instead of breaking loose or hoping! So far very happy with the product, I will hook the 30 ft TT to it this weekend and give them a real test. Of course I will get loaded pics as well then.
a pic of one side with hardware.
and another
A few of the spring installed on truck.
Installation was very easy, simple bolt on application. Approx 1 hr for complete install, now that I know what I am doing 30 min. Directions say max adjustment is when spring ends get within 1/4 inch of truck springs. Mine are at approx 3/4 to 1 inch and I have about a 1/2 inch of lift. Test drive, truck feels much sturdier yet does not ride rough at all. Also I noticed that it now feels like you are putting much more power to the ground, tires bite (hook up) now instead of breaking loose or hoping! So far very happy with the product, I will hook the 30 ft TT to it this weekend and give them a real test. Of course I will get loaded pics as well then.
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Those Hellwigs are starting to sound better and better 
. I was really concerned about rough riding as well. I only want to add a tiny bit of rake back into my truck. I can't wait to see the trailer pics. I have no toys yet, as I see this truck as my gateway drug . But I do put it to work hauling rock, bark, furniture, etc... for myself and my friends.
. I was really concerned about rough riding as well. I only want to add a tiny bit of rake back into my truck. I can't wait to see the trailer pics. I have no toys yet, as I see this truck as my gateway drug . But I do put it to work hauling rock, bark, furniture, etc... for myself and my friends.
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I've used Helwigs before and was unimpressed. Made the ride harsher in the back.
These are leaps and bounds better:
Riffraff Diesel: Roadmaster Active Suspension Kit
These are leaps and bounds better:
Riffraff Diesel: Roadmaster Active Suspension Kit
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I've used Helwigs before and was unimpressed. Made the ride harsher in the back.
These are leaps and bounds better:
Riffraff Diesel: Roadmaster Active Suspension Kit
These are leaps and bounds better:
Riffraff Diesel: Roadmaster Active Suspension Kit
Thanks for the suggestion.
Last edited by Jus2shy; Jul 16, 2011 at 02:39 PM. Reason: expounded on my thoughts
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