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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Rough Start in The Mornings

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I have a 2004 6.0L Excursion 4x4 which I bought Used.

Every Morning when I start My truck. I have to wait for itto warm before i can use it.. I have no power when leaving my house. i can floor it and the just moves slowly and it struggles.. but once it warms up in a bout 10 min the cars run normally through out the day.

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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Welcome to FTE. There is a thread on "low power" in the Tech Folder. It should get you started w/ the troubleshooting.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...condition.html

While you are looking that over, get the codes read at an autoparts store and tell us your history on fluid and filter changes.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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I have the same year as you and there are several options depending on what you find. I know that my truck had a very hard time when I did not plug it overnight. I live in SoCal so the temps are in the low 40's to high 30's and that is extreme. I did not want to reflash my truck since it had an older 2006 flash that worked great for me. I did change over to synthetic oil and that made a huge difference on the days I could not plug it in overnight. I consider my engine to be well maintained and all systems were working properly at the time....except for the nasty cold starts with fossil based oils (Chevron 15w40 DELO). See what you find and let us know....I am curious to see what you find.

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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies..

Let me give a little back ground

I live in Miami Florida and the weather here is HOT Like Africa Hot.

It just happens that I changed the oil yesterday to a 15W40 Rotella Oil and this morning the start was rougher.maybe like the link suggested it might be Oil related.. What would be the Oil of choice I Should use and what other recommendations do you have..

The EGR Sensor was replaced recently BTW
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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oh And i have 184k Miles

Would Injector problems have to do with the car running rough until it warms up or maybe glow plugs need to be changed
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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I doubt that it is glow plugs. Likely to be injector stiction which the 5W40 can help and so will adding Rev-X.

You really should also check the FICM voltage (KOEO, cranking, and at 2000 rpm). The Tech folder has a thread on how to do this.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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I would vote for Shell's Rotella T6, when it was first introduced it helped and eliminated alot of stiction and rough starts people were having.

If you're willing to go a different route, you can try hot shot secret. It was specifically designed to clean the oil side of injectors and get them running in like new condition again. I run the treatment every spring and winter and I never had any issues...
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
I doubt that it i glow plugs. Likely to be injector stiction which the 5W40 can help and so will adding Rev-X.

You really should also check the FICM voltage (KOEO, cranking, and at 2000 rpm). The Tech folder has a thread on how to do this.

A friend has the same truck but his car you start in the morning and it just goes. Any other suggestions?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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I found a place that Sell Hot Shot's Secret and Rev-X is not available locally...

Someone suggested Lucas is that any good??
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bayous
I found a place that Sell Hot Shot's Secret and Rev-X is not available locally...

Someone suggested Lucas is that any good??
Not a good idea, Lucas thickens the oil and causes foaming...

I know first hand....
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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I am with Mark. You need too have your Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) tested. You shouldnt even need Glowplugs in "Africa"! Maybe have your HPO System checked out too, as it sounds like your injectors are not firing right (stiction).
 

Last edited by 2006lariat; Jun 15, 2011 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Re read what I typed, and realized I told him to have his High Pressure pump checked, I meant have the High Pressure Oil System checked!
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Scratch the Lucas Oil Comment.

I found a local place 3 Miles from home at http://www.quicktricksauto.com/

Gonna pick it up tomorrow and see how it goes.
 
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