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BFG's all the way Pat. Third set, along with third on dads truck. Great tires handle the trailer weight well and make my truck a snow plowing machine in the winter.
Okay, so BFG's are winning here in the votes, how well do they clear mud and snow? I had a buddy who had them for a long time, and seemed to work everywhere we went, but looking at the tread design, I question how well they clean themselves..
They clean very well. I have only gotten stuck in the snow twice and they were both my fault not the tires. Did a little digging and these tires pulled me out both times. I swear by these tires.
Okay, so BFG's are winning here in the votes, how well do they clear mud and snow? I had a buddy who had them for a long time, and seemed to work everywhere we went, but looking at the tread design, I question how well they clean themselves..
All Terrains suck in the mud, they don't clean out at all. But they are GREAT in the snow and highway. I got 40,000 out of my last set. I also ran a set of the BFG KM2's....great in mud, decent for the highway....sorta loud, but they look awesome I traded them off around 15,000 miles because I upsized to 37's, I'm now running a Dunlop Maxx Traction MT. So far so good with them
Pat was it you that was running very wide tires on stock height @ RRE?
Jim, I am about 3" higher then stock because of added springs. My tires are 365-65-16 toyo open country at's, Worn, they measure 33x12.50.
I am not sure they are truelly wide by most standards, just wider then what my rim is supposed to wear.
The wear pattern is pretty nice ( flat ) so I believe I have been doing well on my presure. There is no scalping, leading me to believe that shocks and ball joints are fine (beside the occasional prybar check while rotating)
Are you thinking something that might help here??
as far as the RRE reference, I had lost my 4x4 motor, so I ran in 2 wheel drive.
I have had the good year dura tracs since late last summer, have put just over 9000 miles on them, and they look like new still. I know some have said they have a soft sidewall, but I haven't had any issues towing a 22 foot goose neck horse trailer with up to 8 horses in it so long as i air them up to a full 80 lbs. Running empy I back them down to factory spec and they seem to be perfectly flat.
My thoughts when you are running a 12" wide tire on a 8" wide wheel you are weaking the sidewall making it not hold the weight the same and in turn wearing out faster
I that the drift cars are running a streched tire to make the sidewall stiffer
I've read that the Goodyear Duratrac tires are nice, but their sidewall is too soft, even on E rated tires.
I recently bought the new BFG Rugged Terrain tires (not Rugged Trail). They are a really nice looking tires that offers good traction and also good road manners. I have put 2k miles on mine and they are great so far. They are more quiet than they look like they would be. They have a 50k mile warranty. They have only been available since April, so there aren't many reviews, but I think BFG has done their homework on these. http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-...ain-t-a-tires?
My thoughts when you are running a 12" wide tire on a 8" wide wheel you are weaking the sidewall making it not hold the weight the same and in turn wearing out faster
I that the drift cars are running a streched tire to make the sidewall stiffer
X2 on that... I run a 13.50 toyo, actually measures 14.2, at first I had them mounted on my old 16x8 rims, after seeing they way they looked, I was not comfortable with the setup... Had them mount another set on 18x10 rims and was much happier, so I went that route even though it added the price of rims to an already punishing blow to the old wallet.
FWIW... on the BFG questions, I ran BFG a/t's on my Dodge 3500, did ok on highway, but I had nothing but problems in sand, snow and mud with them. The tread design is too tight IMO, and doesn't clean out well at all. Came up 395 through mammoth lake from San Diego one year... started snowing on the way up and basically had a 8000 lb sled on my hands after that
Pat unless you are commonly in mud that is over the bottom part of the rim you'll do fine with the BFG a/ts. I've never gotten stuck in mud with that truck and I've had it in mud to the edge of the rims.
The only time I've ever gotten the 06 stuck to where it required an external force to unstick it (couldn't just hammer down forward and back while cutting the wheels trying to grab traction) was plowing 30" of snow.
I believe I got it stuck 3 times trying to plow 30" of snow. Two of those were just a result of sliding on ice on hills and they were both a result of me getting overly ambitious trying to plow. The last one I was plowing out a private road we use and the plow caught on packed snow and kicked the truck sideways into the snow. Never stuck on a customer's property. Got it stuck to where I could rock it out by itself probably 5-8 times.
I really don't think you can fault the tires for that though. Thirty inches of snow is a lot of snow and that truck has a 9 foot plow.
Pat, we don't know what fuel prices are going to do, go up, come down, keep that in mind also in your decision. You do off-roading but how much off roading and does it warrant a mud tire or just a good A-T tire for better mileage and getting you thru those muddy spots here and there. Lots of good info here, pick your poison. For me, beings I'm in my truck roughly 400 miles a week, I wanted a quieter tire with A-T capabilities, Michelin's here.