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egr delete
Just wondering what the advantage is for the delete kit as opposed to getting a repair kit fora it. Id go with maybe the bullet proof kit for the repair but there seems to be delete kits that are a lil bit less expensive
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The bulletproof cooler is a great cooler that won't fail. Doing the delete of the EGR will cause a CEL unless you have a tuner to turn it off. But having a tuner alot of people recommend having head studs installed so you dont blow a head gasket(s) (assuming you have a 6.0L).
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What he said + if you delete your EGR cooler and are subject to smogs that causes another problem. Since I removed my EGR cooler with a full manifold delete, I have not had issues since. I was in a low or no power situation atleast 6 times when the system was functioning (or lack of) in stock form.
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Can't you get a flash to turn the code off? Or does it have to be a tuner? I can't really spend alot of cash on this so I'm trying to get the most bang for my Buck. But I don't want to spend money now and also later to fix the same problem
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IMO the best thing to do is to delete the egr cooler....there are several advantages but the main one is no more melted EGR cooler internals that will eventually ruin your truck....the other advantages are much quicker turbo spooling or reduction of turbo lag.....and ofcourse the obvious....no more stuck EGR valves or cleaning/servicing of the valve.
The full delete I did was from firstcoastdieselperformance.com .....this consisted of an intake manifold that has been modified to allow the coolant to flow without the EGR cooler in place. It is pricey but a nice and solid addition to any truck. Don't get me wrong bro, you can accomplish the same thing by removing the EGR cooler up-pipe (exhaust), finding a stainless freeze plug that fits in the orifice of the up-pipe and having it TIG welded in. The fitment of the freeze plug should be tight enough that welding is not necessary but it would give me peace of mind.
The above is by far the cheapest and works just the same....granted that your EGR cooler is in good shape.
Hope that explanation helped, if not hit me up.
The full delete I did was from firstcoastdieselperformance.com .....this consisted of an intake manifold that has been modified to allow the coolant to flow without the EGR cooler in place. It is pricey but a nice and solid addition to any truck. Don't get me wrong bro, you can accomplish the same thing by removing the EGR cooler up-pipe (exhaust), finding a stainless freeze plug that fits in the orifice of the up-pipe and having it TIG welded in. The fitment of the freeze plug should be tight enough that welding is not necessary but it would give me peace of mind.
The above is by far the cheapest and works just the same....granted that your EGR cooler is in good shape.
Hope that explanation helped, if not hit me up.
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I went with this one
6.0L Ford Powerstroke EGR Delete Kit
what year is your truck
my 03 dont throw a egr code depends what you have
and welcome to FTE
6.0L Ford Powerstroke EGR Delete Kit
what year is your truck
my 03 dont throw a egr code depends what you have
and welcome to FTE
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Its a 2004 f250 I only have about 800 for the fix but I have to have the truck to travel for work and that entails towing a trailer
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Iv heard early 04s dont throw a light either
not shure when the cutoff is but you maynot need a tunner to turn off the light you may not get a light
wheres your ICP
and like joe said some just weld plugs in the EGR cooler
I went with that kit because it comes with the up pipe and gets rid of the stock up pipe that has the scoope inside for egr exhaust gas flow. I want all the power going to the turbo.
do you monitor your EOTvsECT
if your going to all that trouble you may want to change your oil cooler to if it needs it you will be right there
not shure when the cutoff is but you maynot need a tunner to turn off the light you may not get a light
wheres your ICP
and like joe said some just weld plugs in the EGR cooler
I went with that kit because it comes with the up pipe and gets rid of the stock up pipe that has the scoope inside for egr exhaust gas flow. I want all the power going to the turbo.
do you monitor your EOTvsECT
if your going to all that trouble you may want to change your oil cooler to if it needs it you will be right there
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I have an 11/03 build 2004 and it does throw a CEL...had to get the SCT/custom tunes to remove the light.
Iguana,
Who will be doing the work? You mention you have 800.00 for the job, not sure if that includes labor or youre doing it.
Iguana,
Who will be doing the work? You mention you have 800.00 for the job, not sure if that includes labor or youre doing it.
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Also, for those that don't care all that much about the above, think of resale. If you have to resale the truck with an EGR delete to someone that is subject to smogs, I doubt they will buy your truck unless you agree to put it all back in there and if you don't tell them it's missing that equipment that'll be even a bigger bill for you.
However, bottom line is don't think that just because you don't have smog checks in your area doesn't mean that what you are doing is still against federal law. In all honesty, if y'all still want to do it that's fine that's you running the risk, but at least have the facts straight about the legal aspects that way they can make a fully informed decision.
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The up-pipes I have noticed tend to be the weak link in most kits. The welding especially. Be careful, you can still get an exhaust leak due to poor welding and that will robbed that power like you wouldn't believe.
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Posting for Joe Blow and Iguana,
My SCT tuner (new with latest software updates) has a user option where you can turn off egr. I am not sure, but have to wonder if one can use the stock Ford tune and turn off egr, in lieu of buying custom tunes to do this. I would think that this process, if true, would avert concerns that some folks have about lifting heads from using a tuner.
Any tuner geeks out there that might know?
My SCT tuner (new with latest software updates) has a user option where you can turn off egr. I am not sure, but have to wonder if one can use the stock Ford tune and turn off egr, in lieu of buying custom tunes to do this. I would think that this process, if true, would avert concerns that some folks have about lifting heads from using a tuner.
Any tuner geeks out there that might know?
Hotshot
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that kit looked well made compared to some of the others
I looked at the weld on the new pipe it looked good
but they probably dont x-ray the weld
Im shure theres a few cases where after some hot/cold cycles the weld cracks
Post Fiend
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Posting for Joe Blow and Iguana,
My SCT tuner (new with latest software updates) has a user option where you can turn off egr. I am not sure, but have to wonder if one can use the stock Ford tune and turn off egr, in lieu of buying custom tunes to do this. I would think that this process, if true, would avert concerns that some folks have about lifting heads from using a tuner.
Any tuner geeks out there that might know?
My SCT tuner (new with latest software updates) has a user option where you can turn off egr. I am not sure, but have to wonder if one can use the stock Ford tune and turn off egr, in lieu of buying custom tunes to do this. I would think that this process, if true, would avert concerns that some folks have about lifting heads from using a tuner.
Any tuner geeks out there that might know?
Ford's programming will not allow for that to happen. That would be a big EPA no-no.