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Last Friday, the wife and I decided to trade her '01 Expy in on an '04 Toyota Sienna. Much to my surprise, her Expy depreciated more than 55% in just 22 short months. OUCH!!
I'll still get to drive the truck for 2 weeks until the van comes in. Can't say I'm gonna miss it, especially the expensive trips to the gas station. The one depressing thing is, I won't have anything in common with this site after that. Not sure if I'll hang around or not.
Yeah, it was a big one. We started van shopping 6 months ago and at that time, the truck was worth some $4000 more. For this reason, we decided to lease her van. Automobiles are NOT a good investment.
Originally posted by rob_nc Automobiles are NOT a good investment.
Gotta agree with you there. Unless it's a collectible, they're lousy investments.
But Dennis is right. No way that truck should have lost 55% of it's value in 22 months. I don't know how things are where you live but people are still paying premium prices for Expy's on used car lots here.......IF they can find one.
Hmmm,,,, that odd. We stopped at *** Toyota to have it reappraised and they came up with the same figure. Both Toyota dealerships said their SUV sales have dropped. And how can you compete with 0% financing on new ones?
Just going by what several people looking for an Expy have told me Rob. Have you seen a used one on a lot here anywhere? I haven't.
It's also been my experience that trading with another brand dealership does not get the best trade allowances. If I were you I'd try selling it first.
Actually, I hadn't noticed if there were any used Expys to be had. I agree that a dealer of another make might not give as high a trade value, but Ford only did $500 better for a Windstar.
I hate to take the hit, but once it's gone, I won't have to listen to the wife complain about the darn thing.
ALL trade-in values are subjective; nothing is carved in stone so it really comes down to any one person's OPINION of the value of the vehicle. Trading in a Ford at a Toyota dealership doesn't help, as most import dealers tend to have a low opinion of domestic vehicles.
Last summer I stopped by the Ford dealer to check out the new trucks. they offered me 18000 on my 99 Super Duty with only 60000 miles on it. I paid 35K just a bit over two years earlier. I still have my truck. Wasn't about to lose 50% of my money in just two years. The best part is by keeping it I should have it paid off by the end of the year
That's a similar situation I ran into last October. I had a F150 that was leased and the lease was going to end 6 months later. I wanted to trade out of it before lease end, but the appraisal price was $1500 less than the guaranteed residual. Now we're seeing the same thing on our Expy. I may have located a reputable used car dealer that is interested in buying it.
The thing that sucks is we traded a year old Supercrew in for the Expy and actually got every dime back that we paid for it. Basically, we drove it for a year for free.
According to most apprasial guides there are two different values of every vehicle. You have the wholesale value and retail value. wholesale is the value of the vehicle to the dealer. This is controlled by mileage, opitions, vehicle condition and demand. Then there is retail value, which is a suggested value base primarily on market demand. Now, of course, this is just a guide and every dealer will handle pricing differently. And yes, I agree, vehicles are most definitly and expendable item, just like a toaster.
Originally posted by rob_nc Yeah, it was a big one. We started van shopping 6 months ago and at that time, the truck was worth some $4000 more. For this reason, we decided to lease her van. Automobiles are NOT a good investment.
Depends on how often you sell. My formula for trading keeps costs low - drive it until the wheels fall off, then put them back on and drive it 50,000 more miles. The 86' Accord I traded on my Ranger ran great for 13.5 years with only 1 failure (a fuel pump at 12.5 years). The depreciation curve looks like a mountain those first few years.
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