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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Question ULSD Causing Damage?

I was talking with another IDI owner today, and he brought it to my attention that this ULSD had killed his Injection pump, and could almost guarantee it ate my seals on my DB-2 IP.

Does this sound right to anyone here?!?

I'd like to know, he advised I constantly run Diesel Kleen and a Sulfur Additive in my truck.

I just need some more information before I replace my pump and possibly destroy it.

Thanks in advance guys.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:24 AM
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I run stanadyne lubricity supplement in mine. ULSD isn't going to kill a fuel system outright, but the lubrication is lower than older fuels. Also if you have an older version build of the pump with older seals that are not meant to stand up to the "drier" fuel, then you can end up with leaks pretty quick. It can be made worse if the fuel you run contains biodiesel in there since that can also do a number on obsolete seal materials.

I have no idea about the sulfur additive though. Never tried it and never did the research on that.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Thank you David, where do you get your Stanadyne Lubricity Additive? I haven't seen that stuff here, I'm gonna buy a reman DB-2 off a good source I have.

$400, it's just about getting that money.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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400? Try getting one from u-haul, they are 274 and I and other members have gotten them and they are good pumps. The stanadyne additive smells and looks the same as the diesel kleen so you maybe ok there
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:42 AM
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400? Try getting one from u-haul, they are 274 and I and other members have gotten them and they are good pumps. The stanadyne additive smells and looks the same as the diesel kleen so you maybe ok there
When did U-Haul start selling Stanadyne DB-2 Injection pumps?
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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If its from a good shop, thats a good price for the pump. Although if you can get a good one for less - by all means go for it.

I get my fuel additive from a local diesel injection rebuild shop. I've had two pumps from him so far (on for a 1985 engine year diesel ranger and a few days ago for a 1993 GMC 6.5 turbo) and he swears by the stanadyne formula. It can also be found in the isle of a major autoparts store in town but they are more expensive. Its mainly a western canadian chain called "Lordco" but if they carry it, you should be able to find it in an equivalent american outfit like Auto Zone or NAPA (we have a napa store here too but never checked for the stuff in that place).

I started using it consistently a while back when I had the pump in my truck modified and rebuilt by a friend stateside, and part of the warranty required running some form of lubricity supplement. The period has since expired but I decided to continue running it anyway since a single $10 bottle lasts me a month on average depending on how much I'm driving.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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If a guy who works with stanadyne pumps all day swears by them, theres got to be a reason aside from it being made from the same company.

I'm gonna keep an eye out and see if I can find it.

Speaking of Diesel Injection Shops......maybe I should see about having my current just rebuilt, unless someone here has rebuilt one before, and can assure me it's not that hard, I found a rebuild kit, but I lack the proper stones to tear into mine.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:53 AM
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400? Try getting one from u-haul, they are 274 and I and other members have gotten them and they are good pumps. The stanadyne additive smells and looks the same as the diesel kleen so you maybe ok there
Tom, I owe you, if your near Wyoming for any reason and get into a bind, get a hold of me, and I'll pay my debt.

You just saved me a BOAT LOAD of cash, and helped my wife and I have a reason to keep my truck.......THANK YOU

I attempted to give you rep, but it tells me I can't, Pat yourself on the back, Sorry if I seem overly excited, but if you only knew how hard it would kill me to lose my truck......
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by carolinaranger90
I lack the proper stones to tear into mine.
I think that describes most of us when it comes to trying to rebuild one of these pumps.

Theres more involved than just replacing worn parts and a few seals. Adjustments need to be made to get the power and economy as good as it can possibly be.

However the bigger worry is if you get it wrong, you can in theory cause the engine to runaway.

It could probably be done, but while the injector pump can seem expensive at a first glance, its not as much as a new engine so most of us just leave it to the pros (I never thought I'd hear myself say that!).

I think one guy here did put a rebuild kit in his pump a while ago, then sent it to a shop to have it calibrated. I might be remembering something wrong about that though.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by carolinaranger90
I attempted to give you rep, but it tells me I can't.
I can't either since I repped him recently for another post. I'm sure one of the boys will get him though.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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I can't either since I repped him recently for another post. I'm sure one of the boys will get him though.
I hope so, he earned it.

My wife and I are managing with our young son, but we aren't swimming in the currency ocean, to boot, I was recently laid off, and my truck kept me going aside from my family.

Then one day she just....stopped running, and tests of the lines revelaed my IP was dead, 257k and it's on he original pump, guess it was it's time.

I have never been this attached to a truck before, but this one is just.....awesome, and I'm very proud to own it. childish maybe.......but when I was talking to a potential buyer last week, I started to tear up, and my wife didn't like "Seeing me all torn up", I love my Ford......does the above make me a true Ford lover? or a creep?
 
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i have rebuilt a few of those pumps in the past on the 7.3 and they are picky. you have to get the adjustments just right otherwise your back to square one. or they will run wide open.
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 03:08 AM
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i have rebuilt a few of those pumps in the past on the 7.3 and they are picky. you have to get the adjustments just right otherwise your back to square one. or they will run wide open.
Gotta love the catch 22 on that eh Jack? lol
 
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Old May 18, 2011 | 03:12 AM
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yeah they are picky thats why i stopped rebuilding them. sorry drew. its better to get a reman and reset your timing to 5.5 and go from there.
 
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