Two of my buddies in high school raced their pickups to see who was faster. One: 92 F150 2wd 300I6 auto vs 94 F150 4wd 302 auto. The 92 left the 94 in the dust. A 2wd will always be just a little quicker than a 4wd. Don't worry you'll take im!

 

WOW, the figures are spread over the same period it takes to deprec. the truck out.

As I mentioned it does not make cents to me to be wasting my money on a object to decorate the driveway.

I much rather spend my money traveling to places Alaska, Quintana Ro. etc.

I have always been thinking outside the square anyhow but the figures are based on current accident and violation free driving as per State Farm Quotes at the standard assumed rates of increase over the last three years. with 15,000 miles of driving.

The depric. amounts and increased property taxes are based on rural counties in Arkansas. and the same vehicle depri. amounts as is currently seen on the internet and Kelly Blue book loan values.

Drunks when I figured the real cost of a new truck? Nope just did all the figuring and found all the numbers.

Sorry if it stepped on your collective toes, I did not intend to offend anyone, just state my view point.

As for a double wide, why buy a double wide when you can purchase a splint level with garage for the same money?

 

So the 5.4 Triton will outrun the Hemi? Did they do something special to it just for the Harley F150? That sounds kind of strange to me after all the Hemi hype...

 

They supercharged it to 345 horsepower. They haul, to put it lightly.

 

Nothing like making up numbers to fit your criteria, eh?

Try mine instead instead:
$29500 cost plus $350 tax...
$1100/yr insurance or $5500 for 5 years
$200yr property tax or $1000 for 5 yrs
$15000 or roughly 60% 5 yr depreciation
0% 36 month finanacing through Ford Credit

And you're also acting like your truck is expense free. Did you get it for free? Don't you pay tax? Don't it depreciate? Don't you have insurance on it??

Your stock 5.8L can't outpull a stock 6.8 V10 no matter how much you might think it can. The dyno numbers for a stock V10 are right where they should be for the rated output. In fact it probably has more stock rwhp than your 5.8 has stock at the flywheel.

Since I already own a couple of small farms and have money to burn I just can't see owning a 10 yr old outdated pickup, especially when the new ones outperform the old ones in just about every performance aspect that light pickups are measured by!!

 

Hey MH, I think you forgot an important aspect of owning a newer truck as opposed to an older one - "reliablitiy" vs. "down-time".

(Sorry Boss - just had to put my 2 pennies in.)

 

I wouldn't say all old trucks are no longer reliable. I have taken my 84 out of state numerous times, no problems. Sure maybe the gas mileage isn't that great but I don't really care! If it runs good and you keep it that way, will take you any where.

 

My figures are taken from actual facts.

Down time, hum 167,000 miles and it yet to be down stuck in a dealers garage. I pull a steel 24 ft 8 wide 7 tall gooseneck 4 horse slant trailer loaded, weekly. Milage loaded runs around 8mpg.

So I did buy it used and let someone else loose thier money on depr.

Now since you are using your on your farm, its totally deductable. over a five year period, plus the milage the gov. pays. Yes if I could deduct everything like you do I certianly would.

As for resale value I have looked at all the trucks for sale and I don't find the resale values you are mentioning.

V-10s are not holding thier value like you are lead to believe.

V-10 automatic with a steel flat bed did not pull my 24' flatbed nearly as well as as my old junker.

2 days ago pull matched trailers with a bat wing bushhog my buddy passed me several times as I drove his V-10 88 miles oneway to deliver the cutters. He was driving my junker, the V-10 Ford F-250 could not pull the hills nearly as well as the old 5.8 I dont have any idea why but the the V-10 is in the Ford Garage as I type this.

I also pull the horse trailer on curvy road of the Ozarks and yes at some point in the future I will rebuild the engine. I have ask about doing so on other forums.

You must be getting some kind of special deal on insurance, I just checked Allstate and full coverage on a new F-250 is $312.68per month, liablilty only is $98.23. Where did your insurance ifon come from??? I would like to check thier policy out maybe I can get cheap coverage too. No tickets either.

In the last 24 months my down time has been about 8 hours, three for brakes on all four corners and the other five for a timing chain gears and a starter. at 100,000 i figured a timing chain was needed to prolong engine life.

Open road milage empty is over 16 mpg.

So my ture and actua fact from allstate and state farm, actual resell prices from the internet. Sales taxe from AR Dept of Fin. and Admin. Personal taxes from the County Tax Collectors office.

0% financing, well most people will not qualify for that these days, as per what the local dealer saleperson told me.

My insurance is $80.20 per month for C&C&lia. $500.00 deductable. 50/100/50 limits.

The end of this month I will use the truck for a 9 hour drive one way I have no fears of breaking down, I know the truck is able to make the run at any speed. Went to SGF IL last April with it and pull the trailer 6 hours round trip weekly.

Sorry, I still stand by the realistic facts and figure I posted.

Chaa ching

 

$312 per month? That's $3700 per year! Is anybody out there with a normal driving record paying that much for their SD's insurance?

Trail Rider, I dug out my last premium bill, which I pay every three months. It was $443 for full coverage/$500 deductable on my pickup and my wife's suv. That's $1772 per year for two newer autos through a major national insurance company that has multiple offices in just about any town in the US. Nothing special except long-term customer and muliple account discounts.

Depreciation. I used edmunds.com and checked the current retail value for a '99 F250 SD V10. Ext cab, 4wd, auto, V10 XLT trim and a few basic options (cruise, AC, LS rear sliding window, tow hitch etc) and I checked clean 50k miles.

Private sale: $14200
Dealer retail: $16010

 

You my friend dont have a prayer i love ford trucks but Hemi s are hard to beat i know a guy that has a Hemi half ton and it will out run the best ford and chevy has to offer except the lightning ive rode in the dodge before and its a pretty fast pickup faster than you would think

 

Yes, a half-ton. A half-ton with 345 horsepower is going to smoke a 3/4 ton Ford, which is a given. Also, a Hemi half-ton wouldn't beat a Harley Davidson F150 SuperCrew, as proven by Truck Trend's latest issue. We're talking about a 3/4 ton Dodge Hemi 4x4 vs. a 3/4 ton Ford V10 2x4, and the Ford being 2 wheel drive along with some other factors would lead me to believe that the Ford would win.

 

yes i know a half ton would smoke a 3/4 or 1 ton i am talking a hemi half ton vs a half ton ford or two trucks of equal size like a 3/4 ton dodge 2 wheel vs ford 3/4 ford 2 wheel any and every body knows that the chrysler HEMI has always been one of the most advanced cyl head design even still today the most powerful engines designes ever developed even today the most powerful engines {topfuel} still uses the HEMI head design there is no OHV engine in the world that will flow like a HEMI head and i saw the truck comparason between the hemi half ton and the harley pickup and un loaded the ford was a little faster but it has that big lung sitting atop the intake well all be introuble if dodge supercharges the HEMI but loaded pullinf a 7000lb boat the dodge didnt slow down as much as the ford did there is no doubt in my mind ford builds an exellent truck from the ranger to the biggest 1 ton 4 wheel drive ford builds a world class pickup but so does dodge heck i own a ford truck thats the only trucks i have ever owned and they were both great trucks but dodge is a force to be reckoned with wheather you are pullin or racin dodge will and has always been hard to beat there isnt a chevy truck built that will out perform a ford or a dodge but if your gonna race a dodge you better have it together or you will be shut down

 

That has to be the longest paragraph ever written !

Do you Mind if I punctuate it?

 

The Harley F150 costs about $10K nore than the ram. It si also supercharged, and definately puts out more than 345 Hp. Put the Hemi againsed a N/A 5.4, which it the catagory which it competes, and the hemi would hand the 5.4 it's a$$. Put the dodge V10 up againsed the ford V10. That is more of a match. I'd be very surpirsed if the ford V10 would out muscle a dodge V10.

I still think it is cute that Dodge made a V10, then Ford Made a V10. Dodge has a 5.9L diesel, then Ford makes a 6.0. Dodge designs a truck with flared front fenders, ford designs a truck with flaired front fenders(aka superduty).
Do we see a pattern?
I LOVE my Ford truck, I just really think that it is sad that they really can't come up with any ideas of their own, they just have to build on someone elses.

 

With this there is a whole nother set of axles and shafts to be turned, thus putting more load on the engine slowwing it down. Common sense right?