Back to the original post, you said you have 3.73s... Race him, I would bet my own truck youll take him in the 1/4. He has a 4x4..dodge... look at the weight difference and the drag, the HP and torque. Do us all a favor and shut the mopar neighbor up!
M ore O wners P refer A nother R ide.

 

Don't even worry about it, a 2wd will always have better acceleration and most of the time more top end than that of a 4wd. Besides I have heard form many people that the new hemi is not as great as it was cracked up to be. Besides that if he floors it, the tranny will probably fall right out of that thing!

 

ive saw a 1999 2500 dodge regular cab long box V10 get smoked by a 2000 ford f250 V10 regular cab long box both 4 wheel drives now theres a close match up and the ford beet the dodge of the line and the dodge finally passed him at about 70 mph

 

My V-10 gets 8.9 mpg towing my 30 ft Mallard and 14 solo, and has plenty of power. It's torque --not HP-- that gets you over the hump, and the V-10 has 425 ft lbs of torque.

With gears and trannies alike, the V-10 will prevail.

By the way, what is a 5.8? I thought the 351 was a 5.7 and the 5.4 is a Triton V-8.

 

Why is it a 5,8? Its labeled that from FORD.

Maybe the V-10 I drove was a piece of crap, 44,000 miles and it had been euipped to pull. But the truck lacked power/torque/horsepower.

I was able to talk with the previous owner/new buyer, he said the truck lacked power of any kind from the time he took delivery. He agrees its way over rated, also he gave me several names and phone numbers of other who have traded thier week Tirton V-10's off that cannot pull the load.

So this brings up the idea of mine, Why waste my money, when there is not anything to gain but saying. "I have a 2003 F-350 V-10."

Hum my 1995 F-250 5.8 351 Paid for!!! Truck does everything the newer model will do except cost money with depriciatoooooin and increases insurance cost.

Shelling out$700 plus a month on payments when there is nothing to gain, don't make a lot of sense (cents) to a old hillbilly. That money sure will buy me a lot of gas for the old beater.

Last night I went to a horse show, passed several people of the way that later I talked to and they wanted to know what I had in my truck that I out pulled them going up hill. Hum maybe I expect a newer truck to be able to pull my trailer at 55 mph on the crooked roads in the Ozarks, maybe I expect my truck to pull the trailer at 75 mph on the Interstate. Maybe I just expect for $40,000. to get something of value for my money!!!

So far none of the new H.D. pickups have proved they are strong enough for me. Maybe I just expect for the $40 grand something that performs rather than looks good. I ain't gonna pay the price of a small farm for a P.U. that has no benefit other than loosing me money.

Lets see
$40,000. plus taxes.
- $22,000. five year depric.
- $12,000. additional insurance cost
- $6000. personal property taxes.
- $3200. sales tax at time of purchase
= $83,000 Cost to look good in a new truck for five years

$1387.00 per month to look good in your new truck for 5 years.

Hum now I do have a Scottish ancestors, barely got through high school. But come on now you don't have to be Dutch to figure out there is nothing to gain by owning a new truck, and the fact its only new until you drive it away from the dealers lot.

So with that in mind, and $10,000 to spend on motor, tranny and having Baer custom build 15 inch rotor for all four corners, with 4 piston calipers, then less toss in the $500. new seat I walk away with enough money to buy a small farm and can still out pull your V-10. :

Chaa ching

 

My question is, is it like most other Chrysler products where the transmission would puke before the race was over. Dodge has a... lot of good things going for them like engines, but why can they not build a tranny ford tough. Chevy has improved, but has a similar rep.. If the tranny's are only good for 80-100K then it's not worth getting all the HP in my opinion.

 

Hey! John, easy on the hillbilly talk! My granpappy was from the Ozarks, in Eureka Springs, Arkansas.

You make an excellent point on the financial angle, which is why my truck is NOT new. I purchased it used via a private party seller. The owner used top grade oil (Mobil One) from day one every three thousand miles. (He has money).

On the other end is poor li'l ol' me who got lucky enough to steal it from him for $8,500. (I'm still pinching myself).

Okay, so it had 165k miles on it, but it was all long runs hiway miles to Idaho and back.

I had to rebuild the axle (4.10) as all the bearings were shot, I also had to replace the #5 ignition coil and all ten plugs. An extremely routine thing to do on any old V-8, but a real PIA on a V-10 or any Triton. I also lost the radiator in an uphill pull in Nevada. But what could I expect for a truck with 165k on it.

I'm serious when I say I had to go thru withdrawals when I gave away my 460 to my son, I was so attached to it. And, I had my concerns about the V-10. I did a LOT of research before I decided to test the V-10 waters, and held onto my 460 rig for a while.

I found there were far more V-10 owners who loved the V-10 than not. Yes, I did hear from some who were not impressed, but it ran about 2 out of every 10 owners.

It took two years for me to make the decision.

My 460 was dyno-tuned to squeeze out the most power and torque I could muster by a well known race tuner. I advanced the camshaft (stock) 8 degrees for increased low end torque. I also installed new lifters, Crane rocker arms and Crane pushrods when they had begun to clatter pulling long grades.

I also put a Trans-Go shift kit for towing in the C-6 and it was bullet-proof.

It's too bad Ford didn't build the rest of the truck as well as the powertrain. but who's complaining? 18 years of service isn't anything to scoff at.

 

Honestly, the answer is they are about the same. While I really do trust the older trannies more (like the C-6), they had to be prepped a whole lot more than Detroit did from the factory. On my old C-6 I had to install a shift kit to prevent damaging soft shifting, and I installed a huge cooler. Never had a bit of trouble with it since.

I hear you can do somewhat the same thing today but it's a whole lot more money cuz it's all done with chips, (except for the cooling, of course).

Hold on to your hat.....it was Chrysler's old 727 Ford patterned their C-6 after. an excellent auto trans.

Rule of thumb: Beef up the engine,; beef up the tranny!

Like racing a dragster with street tires.

 

How does the old carberated 460's with ported head and new carb and exhaust and rockers compare to the new Ford V10 and new hemi in HP and TQ? Anybody have some #s on the above. I should be around 300+ HP. Any guess on the TQ. I am running 9.5 CR

I have a 4spd with granny 1st and never seem to have a prob. I will be soon be towing a #13,000 load-- I let you know how it does. I have NP205 to cut the gear ratio in half if needed and 5.13's

Thanks

 

What does the Harley F150 have in it? It beat a similarly equipped Hemi. Did anyone check out that article?

 

John,

The new Super Duties are light years ahead of the 1995s. I like my 1967 F-100 but I'm fooling no one trying to say its better than a 2003. Don't know where you got your figures from, the Superduties hold their values well, don't cost $12K more to insure (unless you drive like a maniac and have a bunch of tickets) and $6K is a rather high number for ad valorem.

If someone has the money, why bash them for spending it on a better truck? What's so wrong with having something new in the driveway instead of something old? Why not enjoy the finer things in life? Heck, why not just live in double-wide instead of one of those fancy expensive houses? Forget steak, you can have Burger King! Or instead of a filet, get a crap steak at Ryans buffet. I may be wrong, but your arguments sound like a guy who can't afford one. First time I've ever heard of someone collecting names and phone numbers of people who didn't like an engine... seems odd.

I'll soon have a 2004 F-150 in the driveway and to hell with anyone who tells me I wasted my money. Its worth every penny for me to enjoy my new toy --- I worked hard for it.

 

Ken, chille out.

Now I see, you are soon to have a new F150 and you don't like it when some one tells you it is less of a real work horse truck that a redone 60's or 70's.

Well it is interesting to find out if renewed older trucks can do more work and have more steel frame strength than the newer ones and have all the creature comforts added.

Any one have some facts on gauges of steel curb weight of new vs older trucks and also compared to chev and dogs.

I have heard of some of the newer trucks, esp. Chev having frames bend or break with heavy loads or pulls. Anyone here have personally seen this. And the bumpers--much thinner gauge steel-- any one have the specs on some of this stuff.

Hey if you got the bucks to spend on a new rig go for it. But don't sound off cause mabe the older trucks can put more out than some of the newer ones. Congrats on the new truck purchase.

Greg

 

5.4 Triton

 

John, how drunk were you when you wrote all those price quotes. $12,000 "MORE" for insurance. What do you pay now $60,000 for insurance? And $6000 for property tax?? My math shows it's not about a new vehicle, it's about moving away from whatever money pit town you live in. If people don't buy the new pick-ups then there's no used one's for you and I to buy later on down the road. I think whatever truck you own is the coolest, because it's yours. I like the old and the new one's just the same. I traded my 97' for a 95' because I liked the older body style better, just my opinion though...

 

I think it would be rather close but just for kicks have him put the dodge in 4 wheel drive that should give you the extra edge. And if you really want to embarass him put them end to end and pull him around like nothing!