Newbie, first 300 performance build
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I would like ya'll to meet Uncle Jessie
Just a few pics. Well here is the old truck! Front Clip, engine, and tranny is coming out tomorrow. I will post up pics to document progress.
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Uhhh yeah you and me both sidewinder LOL, Thats on NASTY truck right there! although I do know where a 1977 Short bed is with a 460 BB for 2200 bucks. The truck is pretty straight with some rust in the floor pan but its workable it runs and drives good. I was gonna buy the truck just because its a short bed but I think I need to keep my eyes on the prize!
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Got a late start today. I only got the front clip off. This truck is going ALL the way down to the frame. I need to change the cab out anyway from a big dent in the top from Uncle Jessie's run in with a power pole. I plan to clean and coat the frame with POR15 and replace all bushings, etc. It will also make working the rear end easier. Sorry for the small pics don't know what happened there.
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Nice pics, and good luck with the project. Makes me want to build a garage so I can get Dad's 79 and resurrect it from the dead.
Sidewinder, love that clip. That is a regular 429 and not a Boss correct? A friend of mine several years ago put a 427 into a 78 4x4, that was one bad truck too. He was trying to talk a guy out of a Boss 429 but I don't think he ever managed that trade.
Sidewinder, love that clip. That is a regular 429 and not a Boss correct? A friend of mine several years ago put a 427 into a 78 4x4, that was one bad truck too. He was trying to talk a guy out of a Boss 429 but I don't think he ever managed that trade.
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No disrespect to C.Flashman, but why spend $5k on an I6 to get 300 hp. I love my I6, but for half the money on a nice little sb v8 you'd get the same hp. I would just do the mods the other guy mentioned, and you'll be fine ... in fact you'll be blown away.
I would avoid the flat top pistons, unless using those from a 360, and then you don't need to deck the block or head for more c.r. But you will be on medium grade gas. I'd avoid the comp cams lifters. The 268 is a bit radical for street. You might want to think about the Isky 262, or the Clifford 264. From experience I say to avoid the 1.7 rockers. It was 'holy ****!' time to get on it with them on, and feel the engine come on like a sbc, but it changes the geometry of the v.train. I sucked a valve with mine on, and thank my lucky stars the v. did not drop into the chamber!!!!! If you want the lift the 1.7's provide, then get the Clifford cam. When you change the geometry, you are playing with what Ford engineers, the ones with degrees who measure to a 1/1000th of an inch, spent years calculating and planning. Sure, bolt it on and go around the track a few times ***** out. But for daily driving, forget it. Get the power elsewhere.
Spend your $ on the head, porting, with the bigger valves (1.94's and 1.60's), and you'll be very happy.
There is a new site, truck me blue . com, opening tomorrow, who is selling some products for the 300. Cheers.
I would avoid the flat top pistons, unless using those from a 360, and then you don't need to deck the block or head for more c.r. But you will be on medium grade gas. I'd avoid the comp cams lifters. The 268 is a bit radical for street. You might want to think about the Isky 262, or the Clifford 264. From experience I say to avoid the 1.7 rockers. It was 'holy ****!' time to get on it with them on, and feel the engine come on like a sbc, but it changes the geometry of the v.train. I sucked a valve with mine on, and thank my lucky stars the v. did not drop into the chamber!!!!! If you want the lift the 1.7's provide, then get the Clifford cam. When you change the geometry, you are playing with what Ford engineers, the ones with degrees who measure to a 1/1000th of an inch, spent years calculating and planning. Sure, bolt it on and go around the track a few times ***** out. But for daily driving, forget it. Get the power elsewhere.
Spend your $ on the head, porting, with the bigger valves (1.94's and 1.60's), and you'll be very happy.
There is a new site, truck me blue . com, opening tomorrow, who is selling some products for the 300. Cheers.
Point #2, a 300 with 300hp is a whole different animal than a 302 or 351W with 300hp, or even a comparison at 250hp. Just like in the thread about the 300 taking a back seat. A built 300 is a hard to beat little package with great manners.
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Forgot to snap the pics, but I got the engine and tranny out this afternoon. The engine will probably get tore down Monday and sent to the machine shop on Tuesday. Then I will proceed with removing the cab and bed. Now my plan is to pressure wash/scrub the frame them coat the entire thing with POR15. But it seems I have heard that POR15 is photo sensitive (breaks down and fades in the sun) is there another product that is tough as nails like POR?
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Then I will proceed with removing the cab and bed. Now my plan is to pressure wash/scrub the frame them coat the entire thing with POR15. But it seems I have heard that POR15 is photo sensitive (breaks down and fades in the sun) is there another product that is tough as nails like POR?
Rust Bullet is another option. Single stage, so less prep time as well. Although it's either gold or silver depending on the formula so would require a black topcoat.
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[quote=BaronVonAutomatc;10343371]Are you planning on the truck being belly up for extended periods of time? Otherwise the frame won't see much UV light.
LOL@Baron................ok well so you've got me there lol.
LOL@Baron................ok well so you've got me there lol.
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I got the old mill tore all the way down with the crank and cam being left. I had to wait for my Pops to bring home a balancer puller so I can get the timing cover off etc. That motor has so many miles on it, once I took the rod caps off I VERY easily pushed the pistons out with my thumb. Good news is the crank and rods look great so I can reuse them. So she should be on the way to the machine shop tomorrow with any luck. Then its onto the bed and cab. Poor old Uncle Jessie is gonna be a mere shadow of his former self. But he will be back and better than ever.
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I finished tearing down the motor this morning and took the block, crank, and rods to the machine shop. The owner of the shop told me that he got to thinking after he talked to me a few weeks ago. He said I have a head for you motor already ported, polished, and with screw in studs. AWESOME, He said he is gonna check it out and see what has been done and what needs to be done. Thats luck right there LOL!