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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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hi this my first post here,i just purchased a 86 f150 4x4 300cyl with a t170 tranny but 3 and 4 are out of the tranny i have a couple questions 1. will a t18 from a 78 f150 work with this motor say using the t170 bell housing
2. if not can i get a t18 from the same year and will it work with the t170 bell housin and t case
i really need help with this no one else can anwser it thank you
 
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Originally Posted by trumsey07
hi this my first post here,i just purchased a 86 f150 4x4 300cyl with a t170 tranny but 3 and 4 are out of the tranny i have a couple questions 1. will a t18 from a 78 f150 work with this motor say using the t170 bell housing
2. if not can i get a t18 from the same year and will it work with the t170 bell housin and t case
i really need help with this no one else can anwser it thank you
1) Probably. Bell to trans pattern will be the same. (Ford "butterfly" pattern). Input shaft length would be the only question. The T170 may have used the car input length, a bit shorter than the T18. If so, a "truck" bell, probably from where ever you are getting the T18.
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The Borg-Warner T18 & T19 Transmissions - Novak Conversions

2) The year of the T18 does not matter as long as you are after '66 or so, to make sure of the bell to trans pattern. And condition is more important than age--although age certainly can drive condition.

As for trans to TC, you may need a different adaptor with the T18, but if you get one out of a 4x4, you may get the proper adaptor with the trans.


What TC do you have?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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i picked up the t18 a couple of years ago for a jeep build but never used it i checked it to the stock t170 and it will bolt to the bell housing but not the t case im lost because the cheapest t170 i can find is 550.00 another question i have is the slave cylinder is mounted to the bell housing and its hydrolic would this work with the 78 t18
 
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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As long as the clutch disc splines match the input shaft, and you confirm the input shaft lengths are the same, you current clutch set up will work.

Does your T170 bolt directly to the TC, or is there a short tailshaft housing or adaptor?

What is the model of your TC?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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there is an adapter between the t case and transmission but i looked but i cant tell what t case it is all i can tell you is it is a borg warner
 
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Any numbers on the adaptor or tc? Seems like there would be only a couple possibilities for the TC.

Choices listed here:

Rebuilt Ford Transfer Cases 12 month warranty no hassel.! - Drivetrain.com

1345 pic:

1345 Transfer Case Borg Warner Parts Illustration and parts list! - Drivetrain.com

NP 208F:

https://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/775155

Once you id the TC, it will be easier to search for an adaptor.

It is also possible that bumping this to the top and putting all these links in here will attract someone with first hand TC knowledge to save the day.
 
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ok apon closer investigation i have a t170f tranny and a borg warner 1345 t case but i tried looking and cant seem to find an adapter to go from the 1345 to the t18 tranny any body know where to find these or even if it is possable to put the 1345 to a 1978 t18
 
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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I did a search and found a couple of comments that indicate you do not need an adaptor. The trans bolts directly to the TC.

I find the T18/1345 combo referenced several places, so it is possible it works that way.

Pull it apart and try it....
 
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the 1345 is bolted to the t170 and it uses anadapter that has 6 bolts and the t18 on the tail side has only 4 bolts i dont know how it would work
 
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Does the 6 bolt part look like this?

Guide To Common Transfer Cases Bw 1350 Transfer Case Photo 3
 
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thats what the t case side looks like but i need the tail shaft adapter that goes in between the t case and tranny but i dont know if i can find an adapter that will go from the 86 f150s 1345 to the 1978 t18
 
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What that tells us is the adaptor for a 1350 should work also. You can search for that. As far as I can tell, this is going to be a junkyard item.

Close as I can come right now:

Motive Gear 1301566010 T18 4X4 ADAPTOR ASSY EARLY STY
 
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i think what im goin to do is buy a np208 and tail shaft from a t18 and just mount it to the t18 i have i have found quite a few in my area for 100 bucks
 
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