Wheel size question
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Wheel size question
I need new tires for my truck (67 f250 4x4). It's currently running 33's, and I've read enough to believe that I can get 35's (or the metric equivalent 315/75r16) in underneath (I have the cheezy leveling blocks on the front, so I gain an inch or so clearance).
I'm currently running rusty 16x7" rims, which won't be quite wide enough for a 12.5" wide tire.
So, I'm looking at options.
I think I like the Eagle Alloys Series 58 rims. Linky: Eagle Alloy Wheels - Series 058
I'm looking at 16x10's, 8 on 6.5 bolt pattern.
They have a -24mm offset and a 4 1/2" back spacing. Is that going to put the tires outboard far enough to avoid most rubbing issues?
Thanks!
darrell
I'm currently running rusty 16x7" rims, which won't be quite wide enough for a 12.5" wide tire.
So, I'm looking at options.
I think I like the Eagle Alloys Series 58 rims. Linky: Eagle Alloy Wheels - Series 058
I'm looking at 16x10's, 8 on 6.5 bolt pattern.
They have a -24mm offset and a 4 1/2" back spacing. Is that going to put the tires outboard far enough to avoid most rubbing issues?
Thanks!
darrell
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Hey Darrell,
I can't answer the question about the offset because I can't remember what I bought, besides I have an F100 4WD which I think has a different axle.
I put 285 70R17s on mine and they are 35 inches tall. I don't have any rubbing issues, but the thing plows in parking lots!
I am not a big fan of the "Baja" style rim, I used to like them but now they come on everything including travel trailers! I went with a Devino Krakken, there are not a lot of choices in a 5 by 5.5 bolt pattern for a 4x4 truck.
I can't answer the question about the offset because I can't remember what I bought, besides I have an F100 4WD which I think has a different axle.
I put 285 70R17s on mine and they are 35 inches tall. I don't have any rubbing issues, but the thing plows in parking lots!
I am not a big fan of the "Baja" style rim, I used to like them but now they come on everything including travel trailers! I went with a Devino Krakken, there are not a lot of choices in a 5 by 5.5 bolt pattern for a 4x4 truck.
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I would use caution going with that big of a tire on a closed knuckle D44. They aren't known for their strength.
I used to run 315/75R16s on 7" steelies, I liked that the tires gave more protection to the rim that way. It also made for a softer ride as the sidewall was able to flex more.
I used to run 315/75R16s on 7" steelies, I liked that the tires gave more protection to the rim that way. It also made for a softer ride as the sidewall was able to flex more.
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I run P rate tires - I wanted a softer sidewall and the truck doesn't see hard duty so a higher load rating was not needed. Didn't know the D44 knuckle was a weak point, but as noted above, my baby is a fun driver, not a working girl any more.
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Here's the rim that's on the truck now. While I like the look, the chrome part rusted pretty quickly.
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They're a 7" rim, and I could put the 35's on them, and just scrape and paint the rims. However, I would think they would rub pretty bad...
If I were 'wheeling the truck, I would be concerned about the strength on the front diff, etc. However, this is strictly a 'mall crawler' with a very occasional foray up a forestry road.
darrell
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They're a 7" rim, and I could put the 35's on them, and just scrape and paint the rims. However, I would think they would rub pretty bad...
If I were 'wheeling the truck, I would be concerned about the strength on the front diff, etc. However, this is strictly a 'mall crawler' with a very occasional foray up a forestry road.
darrell
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I have to confess that vanity drove my tire/wheel selection. It just looked sad with the original size tires and rims. It is a 4x4, it needs big boots.
I did have to knock the rear spacer out from above the axle to get a decent ride height since I never carry much in it.
I did have to knock the rear spacer out from above the axle to get a decent ride height since I never carry much in it.
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I agree, vanity is completely the reason behind the big tires for mine. I'm also looking forward and thinking about a 4" suspension lift in the future, and don't want to have to re-purchase tires...
darrell
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Darrell,
Just looked over your gallery. I think it looks right at the current ride height. I wouldn't lift it. Bigger boots for sure, but she is pretty tall as she sits.
Sweet interior, by the way.
Just looked over your gallery. I think it looks right at the current ride height. I wouldn't lift it. Bigger boots for sure, but she is pretty tall as she sits.
Sweet interior, by the way.
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Thanks for the compliment.
I have a new cab, box, tailgate, front fenders, rad support and hood just waiting for the money to have final body work done on them. New heated leather 67 seat, headliner, firewall cover, etc, etc, etc. I've been collecting parts for the last year and a half. Still need to order up a painless wiring harness and the secret audio hidden stereo.
I'm still narrowing the colour, but there's a blue very similar to what's on it, I think it was on the 65 or 66 mustangs.
The lift kit might be a bit much, I agree, however, there are guys out there with bigger trucks than mine, and it makes me envious!
darrell
I have a new cab, box, tailgate, front fenders, rad support and hood just waiting for the money to have final body work done on them. New heated leather 67 seat, headliner, firewall cover, etc, etc, etc. I've been collecting parts for the last year and a half. Still need to order up a painless wiring harness and the secret audio hidden stereo.
I'm still narrowing the colour, but there's a blue very similar to what's on it, I think it was on the 65 or 66 mustangs.
The lift kit might be a bit much, I agree, however, there are guys out there with bigger trucks than mine, and it makes me envious!
darrell
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I doesn't look in the gallery like it needs that much. Heated seats got my attention, I am envious.
I need to get a stereo into the roof liner - I bought one of those with the built in speakers and I left the original Philco in the dash. Other than that I'm thinking about a grill (as you know). After that I'll consider replacing the NP435 with something more drivable, maybe the T-case. There is a crazy conversion you can do where you can have the front or rear engaged independently - imagine a front wheel drive F100!
Next up is a set of aluminum heads and intake, with a hotter cam.
Remember those guys with the big lifts have to come to an almost complete stop before turning!
I need to get a stereo into the roof liner - I bought one of those with the built in speakers and I left the original Philco in the dash. Other than that I'm thinking about a grill (as you know). After that I'll consider replacing the NP435 with something more drivable, maybe the T-case. There is a crazy conversion you can do where you can have the front or rear engaged independently - imagine a front wheel drive F100!
Next up is a set of aluminum heads and intake, with a hotter cam.
Remember those guys with the big lifts have to come to an almost complete stop before turning!
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Here's the stereo I want... Ipod hookup, everything hidden, but the best feature is that it has an input for satellite radio!
Custom Autosound Secret Audio SST Hidden Radio
Haven't decided on heads and cam yet. I'm leaning towards the edelbrock aluminum heads. I don't know much about cams, but I want something that idles (a little lope is ok). My objective now is to out-do your dyno results!!!!
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Haven't decided on heads and cam yet. I'm leaning towards the edelbrock aluminum heads. I don't know much about cams, but I want something that idles (a little lope is ok). My objective now is to out-do your dyno results!!!!
darrell
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Honestly my dyno result is a bit of a low bar. Mine is a mostly stock 410 with a mild cam and a moderate port, polish, and matched intake runners.
Your 428, taken back to a tight nearly stock engine, should do slightly better. You may give up some of the low end torque with a hotter cam, but you'll have lots to start with.
I think you'll find with the aluminum heads, bigger valves, etc. you will be pretty happy. Bigger tires and wheels will hurt your result as it did mine.
I will toss a coin over which I do first - changing the tranny vs changing the heads, intake, and cam. A real 4 speed or even a 4 with over drive such as the NV 4500 will make it more drivable.
Your 428, taken back to a tight nearly stock engine, should do slightly better. You may give up some of the low end torque with a hotter cam, but you'll have lots to start with.
I think you'll find with the aluminum heads, bigger valves, etc. you will be pretty happy. Bigger tires and wheels will hurt your result as it did mine.
I will toss a coin over which I do first - changing the tranny vs changing the heads, intake, and cam. A real 4 speed or even a 4 with over drive such as the NV 4500 will make it more drivable.
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