Chevy Silverado Heavy Duty Beats Competition in Manufacturer Testing - PickupTrucks.com News

Granted, each of the truck builders creates a scenario that best suits their own product and points out weaknesses in the competition.

You gotta hand it to the GM guys, that's a pretty convincing argument.

Is there a re-design on the way? Is Ford even concerned? Should they be?

Discussion?

 

Who cares? It is just another wrong opinion.

 

idk that tailgate buckling was kinda convincing.

 

My opinion, All the new hd pickups are very competent! I say it all matters what you want and like! Noone can argue a Duramax or Cummin's, as incapable engine's! For every horror story you hear there are 100 ppl that love them! I would say you cant go wrong with any of them! Should Ford be worried? Yes. If you wanna talk it, You need to walk it! I love my truck over my cousins Chevy for other reasons, I believe my truck is built stronger and better, but his max will clean my a$$ towing PERIOD! O our trucks are (mine) 06 F-250, His is an 05 2500! (I am aware these are dinosaurs verses todays trucks)

 

Did you watch the video? I think it was a pretty well done test to show that perhaps it's not opinion.

Did the two trucks use the exact same ramps? Who knows. None the less, it shows how outdated the Ford chassis is.

Look at the improvements made in the F-150 just for the 2011 MY. It's time for improvement.

 

The only part I watched was the twist portion. Box frames have been used in 1/2 tons and small 4x4's in the past. They've always been considered stronger so I don't see the big deal. It's just old ideas being touted as some great new engineering feat. In the past the downside to a box frame was mounting add ons, over time it was rusting from the inside out and the lack of certain 'flexing',especially with pick-ups, could create some traction issues.

A truck shouldn't do what the ford did and they need to move ahead with the SD a little faster. That said, no one should put 3k in a truck and have the need to do something like that. I'm wondering at what point does the GM flex and not come back. Anyway, I'd like to see if the lack of twist is better or worse overall. The real life test was done on ramps and hot top, it's hardly real life. I understand traction control and suspension is much better in newer vehicles but an overall test would be more convincing on loose gravel or mud. I'm just wondering if either of those trucks could get themselves to the peak of a flex like that in a real life situation without losing traction first. Even if they could, how many would want to do it with either truck anyway?

Only my opinion but the box frame portion is just the typicle blah blah blah when something 'new' is developed. Besides that GM has had some butt ugly trucks lately , they need to do something to offset it ...........

 

They should of did some off road testing,then there would probably be some different results.The tailgate buckling was kinda of disturbing though.The results weren't big enough to convince me to buy a Chevy.They should have had the Dodge in all the tests even if it did really bad.

 

What I think is ironic is years ago Ford bashed Chevy for not using a boxed steel frame in their 1/2 trucks. Yet at the same time, Ford never moved to box frame in their Superduty lineup. Now Chevy sports the boxed frame, and the Superduty is still stuck without one.

 

Okay, I watched the videos. It was a Chevy commercial done and paid for by them. What would you expect?

 

The exact same as I would expect from a Ford sponsored commercial. A test that is geared towards the sponsor's strengths and the competition's weaknesses.

 

To be sure! I have no illusions about either.

 

"We wanted to get away from spec-sheet comparisons and show how these trucks perform in the real world, said Rick Spina, global vehicle line executive for General Motors full sized trucks."

"Most of the testing we've done ourselves."

Take into consideration who did most of the tests. Do y'all really think that Government Motors is gonna say another automakers truck outperformed theirs? Not a chance.

And there's former football star Howie Long, GM's spokesperson. Howie knows less about trucks than a jackass knows about tap dancing!

Speed Channel reviewed the 2007 Chevy's with 'ol Howie pointing out their new to the market introduced features. Dampened tailgate, cargo management system, 180 degree wide opening rear doors on King Cabs.

Uh huh, yeah right. All were introduced on the 2004 Nissan Titan. And, if you compare the body styling of the Titan to the Chebbie, it's plain to see that Chevy's styling division stole more than just these three features.

 

well I wached the twist ditch over and over again...notice how the f350 cab leans to the left and the 3500 is fairly level...I wonder how fords rigid front dana 60 compaired to gm's ifs plays into it?? any how i did not buy my truck to go rock crawling, and for the record one magazine that tests trucks in real world conditions (four wheeler, march,2011) compairing the 2011 raptor, 2011 f250 and the 2011 2500hd stated this about the 2011 chevy 2500hd in off road conditions..."with a punishing ride and stunning lack of flex, the silverado spent much of its time watching the other trucks at play,with its street tuned suspension and limited travel it jiggled our guts, at any speed over a crawl our testers wondered where all thoes ifs benifits were...the f250 was the surprise of the test with its ridgid front axle, it was compliant in the dirt, and did well just about everywhere except for deep sand and undulating rollers" the f250 beat the 2500 off road according to this magazine...the 2500hd got stuck alot

 

I also read the article in Fourwheeler magazine,they test them on and offroad.If the test was on and offroad the Ford would win like Fourwheeler figured out.

 

'Ya know, if Ford wanted to, they could go out and buy comparable FIAT/Ram and GM models and take plenty of time to pick apart the weaknesses of each. Then they could make a bunch of videos demonstrating the weaknesses of the other two. FIAT/Ram could do the same. Heck, any manufacturer (given enough time, money, and desire to grasp at straws) could pick the others apart. Trucks are imperfect machines and the day they design the perfect one with no weak spots and no inferiority, none of us will be able to afford one.

Looking at the sales numbers, GM had to do something I guess. And FIAT/Ram Trucks has Sam Elliot as a spokesperson now. I'll take my inferior Ford any day of the week. The wife's got a Yukon Denali and it's a great vehicle but it's not a work vehicle. For work, give me my Ford. On top of that, the interiors of the GM trucks are really getting old and need serious help. Plus, the rear legroom is terrible if you're behind a tall driver, even in a crew cab model. But things like that don't matter here I guess since Chevy has a fully boxed frame and stiffer rear leaf springs.

Without getting into politics, I'll just say it's pretty easy to dump a boatload of money into redesigning a truck when it's subsidized by huge amounts of money provided by citizens and it's not coming out of the corporate coffers.